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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 19 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

“Linux is superior, i am in full control and free to use my device however”

has an iphone

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Android is hardly linux and is also bad.

[–] wer2@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

But Android is a Linux... Not GNU/Linux, but neither is Alpine.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 6 points 4 hours ago

And OSX is a BSD but nobody i ntheir right mind would consider it a BSD distro.

[–] variablenine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 hours ago

I wouldn't say it's bad per se, but getting worse. If they go through with their app developer verification thing then it will definitively cross the threshold from "thin fucking ice" to shit

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

linux sucks because i was promsed a cute penguin but instead got some blue triangle????

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 26 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

You got a blue triangle?

I got a blue butthole

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

No one wants a frozen butthole

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 4 points 9 hours ago

Speak for yourself

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 90 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

says linux is bad but uses the world-wide web 🤭

[–] ramasses@social.ozymandias.club 40 points 17 hours ago

says linux is bad but uses a microwave

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Says Linux is bad but uses toaster.

[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 13 hours ago

Says Linux is bad but uses a toaster without a license

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 22 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

Who says linux is bad? At worst people say it's too hard for them to use at home, but i never heard someone say it's bad.

[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 33 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve heard people make the argument that Linux is bad because it’s too hard to use.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Typical Linux distributions are almost objectively harder to use than Android. I'd be surprised if anyone really disagrees with this. When someone complains about Linux being hard to use, it's the POSIX-based Linux distributions that must support arbitrary hardware (often poorly so) that they refer to. I don't need to care about installing NVidia drivers and whether they're compatible with EFI handover when I buy an Android phone.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Typical Linux distributions are almost objectively harder to use than Android

So are Windows and macOS.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 hours ago

Sorry I don't follow your point.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

You do need to worry about whether or not your phone is locked to a specific carrier and if its the carrier you want to use the phone with. or, if its a phone you want to bring to another network, you have to figure our if you need to argue with your current carrier to get it unlocked.

To piggyback off this, Windows is also "harder" than Android. You need to reinstall Windows due to an update fuckup? You tried building your own PC? Well, you either fork.over $120 for an installation media, or you have to create your own, then learn how to boot into the BIOS to boot from that media, then you need to scour the internet for not only your Nvidia driver, but your audio driver, WiFi driver, integrated graphics driver (if you have and want to use an IGPU) and possibly motherboard drivers if your mobo has some odd implementation that requires a driver for USB 3.1 to work properly.

None of these operating systems are "harder" than another. You are just used to one over the other. You don't use your automatic transmission car skills trying to drive a manual transmission, unless your goal is to crash and burn.

[–] Encephalotrocity@feddit.online 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You do need to worry about whether or not your phone is locked to a specific carrier and if its the carrier you want to use the phone with

Laughs in Canadian

[–] ramasses@social.ozymandias.club 2 points 7 hours ago

Cries in us, its horrible

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

please let me in I beg of thee

[–] variablenine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

massgrave proves my point. The user has to go out of their way to find and run that script.

Linux would just work ootb. No activation needed. Ergo; Linux is easier than Windows.

It's poor form to say an apple tastes worse than an orange because its purely opinion. Theres no fact. I was trying to show the original reply is nonsensical, because for some, Android is harder than Linux. Android may not be what someone is used to.

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Usually people who installed it yesterday and are mad it doesn’t behave exactly like the OS they’ve been using for the last 20 years (which they also had to learn how to use)

[–] Encephalotrocity@feddit.online 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

TBF it does have a glaring lack of automation for way too much of the basics. Even hand holding distros like Mint will have you using the terminal for something windows just does with a double click.

FTR I prefer Linux over Windows but I still lose it every time installation instructions for some app have 4 pages of commands for the CLI instead of just running an installer that automates the BS.

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Maybe 10 years ago, but for me installing anything is done with a single command (pacman or yay)

Are you using some sort of niche software?

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 12 hours ago

Apparently, non-cats.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's not that Linux is bad, it's the fans of it that are annoying

[–] firelizzard@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ok. How is that relevant to the post or the comment?

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

It's responding to "you say Linux is bad". If you pretend the funny cat picture is someone talking, and my comment is someone talking back, it makes sense.

[–] calango@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago

It's a meme, you just got on the internet yesterday, huh?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Android comes pre-installed on my device, with automatic security updates and manufacturer support for the likely lifetime of the device.

I'd definitely use a Linux PC if it came out of the box ready to go like that.

[–] luluberlue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Did phone manufacturer finally decide to keep supporting their models after the first year/couple of years? Or did the "likely lifetime" of a smartphone dropped below that in the meantime?

If anything, my experience with "manufacturer support" on android isn't particularly stellar, with the only outlier being my current Samsung XCover, which is kinda cheating due to the thing being a rugged phone targeting companies and not the average joe, so the thing is built to last, both hardware and software side.

On the other hand you do have a couple (maybe even three!) companies that offer linux pre-installed on their machines.

[–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, it doesn't magically appear on the device. You pay for the installation, it's just included in the price of the device (with Windows you also pay for the license key, by the way). There are companies that'll install Linux for you. Hell, pay me $30 and cover shipping, I'll gladly set you up with, I don't know, Fedora and even add a timer with notifications that'll nag you about package updates, just like Android does.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know that, the manufacturer has already installed the OS etc.

What I want is a warranty and guaranteed manufacturer support, rather than me needing to figure out how to fix it.

[–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Outside of specialized B2B software, I never met a tech rep that would be helpful with an issue. Do you actually have experience where you'd call Google/Apple/Microslop and get help with their software? In Linux world, with many programs I can just go and nag the actual developer of the thing, which often works wonders.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

I had a driver issue with my laptop which was causing the microphone to not work, not only was it fixed under warranty, but they sent a tech to where I was studying to fix it, rather than having to drop it off.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

with Windows you also pay for the license key, by the way

Your computer's price is often subsidized by the fact that the manufacturer has an agreement with Microslop to preinstall Windows on it.

[–] MrsVeggies@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Who is the goverment paying to install Windows?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

It used to be Norton antivirus or whoever that would pay have their shit software preinstalled.

[–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago

Excuse me, they do what now? Do you have a source on this? Because I know of this little article, but that was quite a long time ago.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

"Linux is bad", because it doesn't provide have data collection and transfer to shady corporations with large PR umbrellas, out of the box.