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Israel did not have a realistic plan for regime change when it attacked Iran, multiple Israeli security sources have said, with expectations that airstrikes could lead to a popular uprising having been driven by “wishful thinking” rather than hard intelligence.

Iran has survived nearly two weeks of bombing raids and the assassination of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and Trump is publicly contemplating ending the increasingly costly war.

If Iran’s new leadership keeps its grip on power, the long-term measure of the success of the conflict may hang on the fate of 440kg of enriched uranium which was buried under a mountain by US strikes last June, former and serving Israeli defence and intelligence sources said. Enough for more than 10 nuclear warheads, Iran could use it to hasten the construction of a weapon if the material remains in the country.

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[–] 2FortGaming@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (33 children)

Oh yes, the highly enriched uranium that they only started stockpiling after Trump threw away the deal Obama made with them. The same uranium they offered to give back during the talks, Kushner and Wickoff didn't bring a nuclear specialist in for . And now because of these rich assholes thinking they can do whatever they hell they want a ton of innocent people are gonna die.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

a ton of innocent people ~~are gonna die~~ have already died and thousands more will follow

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Until the poorly behaving wealthy see real consequences in real life for their actions, they will never stop.

Shame and ridicule is useless. They are immune.

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 72 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Funny enough this is what may fuck Trump over big time. Americans have been spoiled by their super low gas prices so the sudden increase is a shock nd he can't blame it on Biden or his other usual go tos.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 5 days ago (2 children)

nd he can't blame it on Biden or his other usual go tos.

Lol watch him

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He can't form new memories. I swear he thinks he is in the 80s again during the hostage crisis and is still obsessed with Obama/Biden.

Still, his base seems to love a geriatric child rapist so I'm not sure they will be able to connect gas prices to his actions, even if he is essentially hitting them in the face with it.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

My coworkers have already managed to blame Obama for making a "shitty deal" with Iran, and Biden for not "dealing with Iran sooner"

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They already are saying that it's a problem because Biden didn't do anything.

Republicans are fucking feckless when it comes to their blatant lies in the media.

[–] funksoulkitchen@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The mask is off and they just can just tell obvious lies, knowing a lot of people will not so much believe the lie but justify them telling lies because it was for a good cause (owning libs, etc.). They are on a team now and they just support their team. Like when there's a tough call in sports and people just want the refs to call it in the way that helps their team. The mask isnt off so much its been replaced with a terrible mask that looks unrealistic and does little to conceal its wearers identify.

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

Never underestimate the Democrats ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 27 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Never underestimate the high powered, highly financed propaganda machine the right has constructed - that and the gullibility and stupidity of Americans.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Israel started this war purely to derail peace/nuclear negotiations between US and Iran (twice in 9 months). Killing Ayatolah, and school girls ffs, was a purposeful act to unite Iran to commit to fight. Bombing Tehran oil depots was purposeful act to have Iran retaliate against GCC oil assets. Some Iranian reported attacks on GCC are accused as coming from Israel.

Israel only wants a destroyed chaotic Iran that is incapable of opposing its genocide and greater expansion. GCC turning against the US is perfect if the US helps fight its GCC allies for greater Israel. Never assume that Israel doesn't want the biggest bugaboo monster leading its enemy regimes, or take seriously any "Israel distraction debate/opposition" that peace was ever its goal.

Some things that have slipped out this week is that "US was planning this for months". Rubio and Hegseth are demonically possessed to serve Israel, and it is Trump's entire political capital, despite the massive direct bribes from GCC. They were planning only amongst those 3, but planning on how to best serve Netanyahu. It wasn't a pentagon/security council expert plan.

War can be going to Israel's plan, without pretending that there was something other than a maximally evil plan.

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Israel is having us fight Iran for them while they invade Lebanon. Seems to be working out well for the Israelis from their end.

Meanwhile our soldiers are dying for them, again. I'm so over this 'relationship' we have with this fucking country.

[–] baitu@jlai.lu 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I read France wanted to protect Lebanon from any threat but I don't know if they will really try

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I hope they do. Israel has harassed Lebanon for ages.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Ah but you have changed the regime. You've switched out one that was sorta kinda meh passively loathing you for one that is now for sure actively hating you and seeking your destruction!

Suffering from success?

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago

Bored of Peace

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I'm sorry..."we"!?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Yeah.

We noticed.

They're literally just improvising this war, because the point is to create chaos in Iran and they don't care how bad it gets. These bastards want another Sudan.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Because they don't want to "win"...

Bibi and trump both, they don't want a victory, they want a forever war they can use as justification to cancel elections.

Look at the people responsible for stopping terror attacks, they're trying to make one happen thru sheer incompetence if nothing else. trump is desperate for some type of "attack on America" because he expects a 9/11 style bump in approval, when it's likely to be the opposite reaction if it happens.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

vibe bombing

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Israel/US plan was to kill the Ayatollah and Iran state would collapse without a supreme leader.

Iran's plan to martyr the Ayatollah and fight asymmetrically with decentralized leadership.

Iran's plan is better than the Israel/US plan.

Maybe they should have learned from Lt Gen Van Riper instead of giving each other celebratory blowjobs of winning a rigged war game.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-trending/that-time-a-marine-general-led-a-fictional-iran-against-the-us-military-and-won/

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

The leaders of Israel and the US both operate under the principles of personal rule, where the individual personal relation to the person in charge is what defines the political structure.

Iran, as many modern states (including, for the most part, the US) seems to mostly operate as an institutionalist government, where it's the institutional role a given person takes that defines their relation to other roles within that system, independently of the persons occupying them (for better or for worse).
If you kill the leader, another person will assume that role, and whoever deferred to the previous leader will (usually) defer to the new leader as well.

Of course there is always a personal element to it and these options aren't a strict binary (just like , but part of the reason even Trump's most insane orders are obeyed is because the people obeying them obey the president rather than just a given person. That obedience is, in this case, both critical to the system functioning at all and a major issue if the president is a maniac.

The personal factor here comes in when the other offices supposed to check the president refuse to for personal reasons, which is why Trump can hold a de facto personalist regime, but it's also why he attempts to undermine all institutional elements to cement that personalist character.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah I remember how immediately after that strike hit that facility the reptiles in the media started hissing that "ohhh thisss is not over! ssssssss but the uranium issssss technically sssstill in Iran so war musssst go on! sssssss! haha humans are ssssso sssstupid"

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago

AFAIK we currently have no idea, if the tunnel system of the enrichment facility has been destroyed or not. Meaning, if they even have access to 50kg of enriched uranium, it will be quite easy for them to assemble that on a rocket that reaches Tel Aviv. And if the Chinese deliver some nice intercontinental rockets, DC will be gone, too.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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