Maybe it is time to switch to communities built not around cars?
Maybe we could have 4 days weeks and more work-at-home to save gas?
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Maybe it is time to switch to communities built not around cars?
Maybe we could have 4 days weeks and more work-at-home to save gas?
cries in walkable cities with public transportation
It's OK, we'll just rent vehicles per journey, and in order to make things more efficient, put extra seats in and run bigger cars between popular destinations. Maybe even use rails for really popular places.
Maybe they'll think of a name for this in the future.
That would never work!
Maybe if they had a line of them hooked together? A train of some sort?
No what if we sold everyone a new car, and then bored tunnels under the cities to run them super fast with computer control
Oh wait no that's the dumbest thing ever sorry
only if we can call them "pods"!
Then maybe the auto industry should stop donating to Republicans.
The numbers don't lie. Republicans are bad for our economy. Bad economy means people don't buy the 1st or 2nd most expensive thing they'll ever buy (since many will never be homeowners).
So let in the 10,000$ Toyota EV1 and the like.
Why are they worried when the government will just bail them out again?
The government made money on the auto bailouts. That actually turned out to be a good investment. Cash for Clunkers was the real bailout: taxpayers paid thousands of dollars to people buying new cars so they'd destroy their old car instead of putting it into the used car market, driving up the prices of all cars and denying lower-income folks the ability to purchase a reasonable car for a reasonable price. Then Covid hit and demand shot through the roof and we all got fucked.
Have they considered advocating for higher wages so people can afford their cars?
maybe stop making everything an apartment on wheels with ipads everywhere. 🤷
Its gonna get worse. This is start of second much worse dark age.
What makes things cheaper and more affordable, is mass production. As cars get too expensive, they'll have to manufacture fewer of them. As they manufacture fewer of them, they will get more expensive.
In the dark ages, most had nothing, but kings had castles, and horses, and feasts, slaves and whores.
This time it might be a bit different since AI can provide labour, but their problem that will still remain, is that only the rich will be consumers.
So the overall wealth of the world will go down. Most will be poor with nothing, and the wealthy will also be limited, since they can no longer take advantage of economics of scale.
But they will still be the wealthiest and most powerful, which is ultimately what they care about most.
The world will regress. The second dark age will be far worse than the first, and far more widespread.
And its all because social media allowed fascists to lie, and stupid people believed them, and those that didnt couldn't be bothered to do anything about it.
Nah. There's way too many literate people, and information is easy to access. This isn't going to be a dark age dystopia. It'll be closer to corporate owned life.
wHy Do mIlLeNnIaLs HaTe ThE aUtO iNdUsTrY
And once people who fix their old Camry umpteen times instead of buying a new one, there will be even more lobbying for anti-repair.
This is kind of a misleading statistic. Cars have gotten more reliable. There's less reason to buy new. Saavy buyers buy used so the average new car buyer is increasingly from the subset of the population that's materialistic and bad with money.
Almost like Capitalism isn't sustainable, right?
Cars are luxuries.
Without public transportation they aren't. When you live 20 miles from your job in Bumfuck, USA how do you get there without a vehicle?
Dude, I'm in the San Diego area. And if I had to rely on the bus, a simple grocery shopping trip would take at least 3 hours, not counting a mile and a half walk to and from the nearest stop. I did take a train and an express bus to work, because it happened to stop directly at my workplace.
The auto industry is worried
I mean, they have the power to reduce the price. 🤷♂️
But then the line won't go up as much and the CEO won't get his bonus :(
And it would just be uncouth if the CEO couldn't buy another yacht to go with his new mansion this year.
Nobody asked for a 100k pickup truck. Who wants to throw boards and chains in that?
He has been thinking about replacing his 2020 Ford F-150 pickup truck
Just... wtf.... Your car is only 6 years old and it's just so old that you really think to need to replace it? And your story is so relatable it lands in an article? How much difference can you even see between that 2020 and a 2026 model really?
I suspect it's media lying again, in order to normalize replacing vehicles more often.
Nah, the guy is probably badly upside down on the loan, and the truck is depreciating so fast he won't be able to roll the loan/trade-in over into another truck.
I don't think it's lying, I was in a lot in 2022 looking at a used 2021 with like 8k miles on it and wondered what they got bought after trading in. The guy said that he actually bought a 2022 of the exact same model, because he didn't want to be seen driving anything but the current years model.
They certainly exist and can be found to quote, just seems out of touch to treat the situation as somehow "worrying" enough to make the cut. Figured you probably could have found someone with at least a decade old car to comment...
"I don't want to be seen driving last years model" Rolls the $36k he still owns on that old truck into the $100k loan on the new one.
We've been watching the slow motion disaster caused by the poorly thought out CAFE standards for years now. Why the fuck is nobody talking about reforming them. They have fully backfired, why keep them at all.
Also the tariff on Chinese EVs. If we're going to fuck over every other American to subsidize the manufacturing sector why are we doing it to subsidize making stuff that sucks instead of subsidizing manufacturing stuff that doesn't suck.
Corporations pay stagnant wages, raise prices, funnel money out of the economy to shareholders who hoard wealth, and then get worried when there's no one left who can buy their products?
Tell me again why we think C-Suite folks are smart?
Right, because they'll get bailed out again and stay rich. That's why.
It's a god damn disgrace.
I'm sure someone will come around and tell me how complicated economics is and why we should trust business and industry leaders who went to school for this sort of thing, like basic pattern recognition and common sense couldn't have predicted that people who can barely afford groceries would stop buying cars...
Fuck.
Tell me again why we think C-Suite folks are smart?
Some weird fetiziation that financial accumen is somehow the ultimate mark of intelligence above all else.
My 2014 Hyundai Sonata is about ready to bite the big one. I will not be getting another car for a while. The nearest bus stop to my apartment is just under a mile away, and my knees are shite. I'm looking at getting a motorized scooter to jet me up the sidewalkless stretch of road I live on to the bus stop, then commute in to work. I work for the city, so I have a free bus pass.
It's gonna suck for a while, but I don't have any better options.
2014?? My Nissan Primera from 96 is still running fine. Check with a mechanic if its possible to resurrect your car. It should hold for longer.
Hyundai and Kia have multiple engines through the 2010's that are prone to varying degrees of death from sudden to less-so-but-still-immediate. (there's been lawsuits, extended warranties, etc.)
And that's before you include the whole easy-theft design flaw increasing insurance and vandalism risk from the same time period.
It's a shame since it really kicked off their "solid value car with some sneaky design flaw that'll kill it/burn it/strand you/cost a lot of money later/etc." trend that continues to this day - even in their electric models.
If it's a second car and exclusively driven locally then you can be fine with one especially since you'll have lots of cheap parts at junkyards for a while to come. Especially if the engine's been replaced already under the lawsuit but multiple replacement engines isn't unheard of. And you'll want to change oil every 3-4k miles and watch the oil level like a hawk.
Not saying they haven't made a solid individual vehicle nor are all lawsuit vehicles about to die but it's not really great having that Sword of Damocles dangling to save a buck. (of course it depends on how many bucks are involved)
Truthfully, it's not worth it. It had an engine replacement a few years ago, and lately, I'm racking up repair bills faster than I can pay them off.
Hyundai's and kias are known for costing more in labor and parts to repair (while taking a chance it might not work out) than a comparable car in working order.