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Congress to America: What War? (www.kenklippenstein.com)
submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz to c/politics@lemmy.world
 

In a rebuke of his own party’s rhetoric, congressman Eric Swalwell said this weekend, “Now is the time for values-based arguments against war with Iran,” adding: “NOT process (‘Come to Congress’) ones.”

His point is well taken, but I’m skeptical that the opposition to the strike is focused on the machine that made it inevitable, instead of focused on Trump individually.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 71 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

"I don't know if this is technically a war,” Senator Lindsay Graham said of the un-war in Iran on Meet the Press on Sunday.

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But it is not just Trump loyalists who are playing word games. Democrats also have a hard time calling this what it is, with the party’s top officials using terms like “Military attack,” “military operation,” “military assault,” and the like.

Sen. Chuck Schumer says the strikes are “risking wider conflict”; Rep. Hakeem Jeffries says the operation has “brought us to the brink of a possible war.”

What a revolting display of writhing human invertebrates.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Obviously it's a 'special military operation'.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Or a special police action to fight the Nazi's?

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

War is peace, don’t you know?

[–] NOT_RICK_SANCHEZ@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans like to call what is developing in Iran a “специальная военная операция” or more commonly known as Special Military Operation comrades.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

It's just Sparkling Conflict.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, not technically a “war” but a submarine just sank one of their battleships in international waters. That sounds like a war to me.

[–] HermitBee@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago

I heard that the submarine captain said "no war" before the torpedoes were fired, so actually no, it's not a war.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

This is either a war or an international war crime and you have to remove him plus Hegseth from office.

Decide you fleckless sycophants.

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Schrodinger's war: it's only a war if they're confident in winning, otherwise it'll be some euphemism like police action.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I saw that dumbass Anna Paulina do a bunch of semantic games over "boots on the ground". It was a real WTAF moment.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

"You will die in our wars and you'll thank us for it."

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To Trump and Hegseth there's no boots on the ground so no war. Trump doesn't want imagery of people being blown up by IEDs, he wants planes and maybe some special force operation.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump doesn’t want imagery of people being blown up by IEDs

Actually, I think he does want that, it makes his job much easier once everybody is shocked by those images, then it becomes time to be patriotic and unify not ask questions.

Is that what will happen? I don't know, but I am confident that is what Trump and Steven Miller think will happen.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That will tank his popularity, not increase it. Now if Iran attacks the US, who the fuck knows.

Trump doesn't like, you know, war. IEDs are war, bombing isn't like, you know, an actual war. It's just bombing and stuff. /s

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Trump doesn’t like, you know, war.

What evidence do you have of this?