Shouldn't they want it banned because it already broke the law? How many lines have to be crossed before anyone does anything?
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I’m not clicking the link to read this but these sort of headlines are often a result of their survey intentionally wording things like this to spin the narrative. Anyone who does in fact want it banned immediately would still say yes to the question. I’d suspect there are many such folks across Europe.
I want it banned regardless :D
Ban it, do it, we are not gonna cry!
Unfortunately, the other half of the people who don't want it banned have all the political capital.
If X fails to respond to the Commission’s fine, 70% of respondents were supportive of repercussions [3]. Among those, between 17-28% think that further fines should be given to X, between 23-29% believe X should be banned, and the largest segment - between 40-52% of those in favour of repercussions - believe that the Commission should fine and ban the social media service entirely from the EU [4].
I think if any other (smaller) site were continually posting CSAM without moderation, it would be banned. What's different about X? The fact that Elon Musk runs it and he's in with a powerful dictator?
At some point you have to admit the CSAM is not the problem, it's the person running it, whether they have the power to stop you/fight back or not.
not just banned, but there would be criminal charges brought on the owners.
Musk should be prosecuted for distribution of CSAM.
What's different about X?
Well, you kind of said it yourself: The fact that, since it's sadly still one of the largest social outlets, there's a whole economy around it. If Europe banned X tomorrow, a lot of people and companies would take a non-negligible hit to their revenue. We can argue that probably these people are not a majority of the other half of people in Europe that don't want X gone, but in the end, politicians and lawmakers care about money and (in a very distant second place) what the majority of their constituents say.
I think all USA/Israel social media application must be banned.
What is a Israel sozial media application?
American ones it seems like. American politicians sure love Israel for some reason.
i want it banned even if it doesnt
And ban Facebook too. It’s been breaking the law a lot longer!
So you suggest that people should see others in real life? Out and about? What are you, a savage?
Just imagine how funny it would be if people would just ditch all that shit.
Yes, it is unfortunately becoming increasingly clear that even in the EU, billionaires and their companies are above the law. The legal situation should be clear here and there should be consequences - but there apparently aren't any.
Unfortunately, this applies not only to Twitter, but to most US tech giants in particular, to meta, for example. I have already stopped counting the massive violations of the GDPR that meta and others are constantly committing, because nothing happens anyway. If anything, the fines are so low that violating the law brings these companies far more revenue than it costs them.
So unfortunately, the same major issue that brought the US to the brink of a straight up dictatorship also applies in Europe: even the most blatant violations of the law have no serious consequences for the richest of the rich – and that is why billionaires are becoming more and more powerful.
The situation may be better in the EU for now than in the US, whose legal system obviously no longer even maintains the appearance of fairness, but even in the EU, the enforcement of the law is miles away from anything that could even remotely be called justice.
The reason seems to me to be the same as in the US: concentration of power in a tiny billionaire class that asserts its influence through corruption.
I think that if things continue like this, and I see no indicators that they will not, it will not be long before even the appearance of justice is abandoned in the EU as well.
Edit: Here is an example of how this is possible - it's just plain old corruption, but in the highest ranks of our institutions: From Meta to the EU Parliament: Former chief lobbyist negotiates data protection (German article)
Aura Salla was Meta's chief lobbyist in Brussels for many years. Her task: to convince politicians to weaken EU digital rules such as data protection in order to generate even higher profits with Facebook, WhatsApp, and other platforms.
I want it banned here too.
More than half are ok with any company breaking the law?
I imagine some of them are okay with fines, or strongly worded letters.
According to a new YouGov survey, a vast majority of respondents in Germany, France, Spain, Italy and Poland (60-78%) think that the EU should take further action against X if it does not address breaches to European law brought forward by the Commission last year [1]. The majority of those (62%-73%) who wanted further action – and 47% of total participants – want X to be banned from the EU if it refuses to address these breaches [2]
20% being fine with it is still worrying to me.
20% of the population is just crazy and will believe in flat earth, young earth, essential oils, Jewish space lasers, 4d trump chess or bevolent ayatollahs.
Good point, I forgot it was a survey.
i wish this was worldwide
banning this website would be super good for Blue sky and mastodon
And why would not these be also banned shortly thereafter?
to be clear, I do not advocate the banning of any social media website for any reason
Ditch it.It will have 0 to none effect of EU. And Mr.NaciSalute won't get broke.Mastodon is the way.
I think you are mistaken. It will have a huge positive impact on the EU.
I say that, in order to save the species, ban all social media, everywhere.
but lemmy :(
You might not realize it, but the Fediverse is social media so a ban would be rather detrimental to this place.
Damn near the entire internet is "social media" but people usually mean "social networking sites".
How about we just fine them to oblivion and make the people responsible answer for their crimes?
I'd rather not see a great firewall of Europe.
I'd be happy to see them banned from doing business here though. Hit them where it hurts, their money.
I would like to know the percentage between if they break the law and regardless if they break the law
