Isn't larceny just theft over a certain value?
this post was submitted on 03 Mar 2026
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Hey so Larceny is taking and carrying away of anything with value, grand larceny is items over a certain value.
But I also didn't know and went to check Wikipedia what larceny was, and I found this absurd example which has me thinking about donuts in new and exciting ways.
I want to go and rotate a donut around not its centre of mass, but around an axis through its torus, off-centre from its centre of mass, because apparently that is not a larceny.
If it's not taken from its original position, how is it even theft? 🤨 The only kind of theft I can imagine that would not require moving the thing being stolen is squatting, and that is a very boiled down way of thinking about squatting.
Nah, squatting is trespass, theft can only affect personal property or real property when it's moved, apparently. Squatting doesn't move any property. Even moving a sofa from one room in your squat to another doesn't count as theft because there's no intent to deprive the owner of the couch.
Rotating a donut on its own isn't theft, you have to also have an intent to take it or deprive its owner of it unlawfully.
Because the police and all the government agencies protect the capitalist class. Expect this to get much much worse because we are living through the biggest deregulation in American history. We’re losing all the workers rights our ancestors fought and died for. Thank the MAGATS, lobbyists and heritage foundation
My employer "encourages" everyone to clock in for the day and from lunch up to 7 minutes early.
My employer also likes to take any and every opportunity to punish people for "abusing breaks" which here means "you walked to the break area and took your 15 minute break and walked back to your station" instead of "15minutes starts at your station and ends at your station so you really only get an 8-12 minute break depending on how far you have to walk.
And forget about bathroom breaks outside your 15s and lunch.
My employer also pays the same every single week, regardless of whether you clocked in 7 minutes early every day or exactly on time.
My employer calls our "abuse" of breaks and lack of clocking in early "wage theft"
The first time I got written up for going to the bathroom and he said "wage theft" I went and printed out 100 copies of a wage theft guide with sources and graphs to demonstrate how employers are the #1 driver of wage theft and it's not even close. Plastered them all over where there are no cameras.
Sounds like you're on your way to starting a union. Keep going.
I've slowly gotten a couple people around on "collective bargaining", I'm avoiding using the big scary U word to them
I'll take "the things we should have been taught in high school" for 200 Alex
In the United States, civil forfeiture (also called civil asset forfeiture or civil judicial forfeiture) is a process in which law enforcement officers take assets from people who are suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States#Statistics
Conspicuously absent are tax avoidance and fraud (insider trading and whatever soon to be illegal scam fintech dreams up, currently AI circlejerk for example), which likely gives wage theft a serious run for it’s money (boom boom), and as u/minorkeys says, labour value theft is where the capital comes from.
Tax avoidance is legal. When it's illegal it's called tax evasion.
There has to be a better word for this. It reads, to me, like the employee is in the wrong.
What is a "rest break violation"?
Taking not enough breaks I assume..
Yeah, like if you have ever had to work through an unpaid lunch break, for example
Or just not given a state-mandated break at all.
In my state, employers are mandated to give employees one 30-minute (unpaid) break and two 15-minute paid breaks for every 8 hour shift. If you're not getting those 15-minute paid breaks (and a lot of people aren't, especially if they don't smoke), you're a victim of wage theft. Your employer is stealing half your hourly wage from you every single workday.
I figured that was classed under wage theft but that also makes sense. I know I sure as hell don't usually get my 15 minute paid I'm legally required to have.
Contact your local department of labor.
I've been out of the work force for a little while, but it used to be (and may still be) that employees are guaranteed a 15-minute on-the-clock break every 4 hours. Making you work without taking a break would be a rest break violation. It used to be funny when managers would try to pull that with me. I knew the labor laws and didn't really give a shit what the boss thought.
More likely being forced to clock out for breaks, but still having to work during that time, or having other illegal restrictions on what you choose to do with that time.
And this isn't counting added value/profit contribution theft, bcs it's not regulated.