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[–] zaubentrucker@sopuli.xyz 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

That makes no sense. From my experience, left wing people are much more likely to be vegan than the average person.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Leftists being more likely to be vegan than others, does not mean the majority of leftists are vegan.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

So what, 1% vs 0.5%? So what?

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Are they really left wing? Vegan teacher is one of the most racist ppl out there. I've met a bunch of vegan right wing religious nuts. (India)

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

Yah, if they're not eating animals due to religion, that's not veganism. That's just religion. Veganism is a moral stance, but it's one springing from rational argument based on available evidence. Religious proscriptions are generally....not that. They're not committed to harm reduction, they're just happening to do one good thing by accident.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 9 points 1 day ago

You can be leftist and racist. Look at the soviets.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So many people are inconsistent it's not even amusing.

That being said, the idea of extending our compassion to other sentient beings is not often received with immediate cheer by people who are otherwise against oppression in general, sadly even by those who value moral consistency.

From an anti-speciesist perspective, watching anti-racist, anti-sexist, queer positive folks hand wringing and bumbling while trying to explain why "no, wait, here's why this opresssion is OK" is both sad and disheartening.

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[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

This post is the canary in the coal mine for the brainrot that has taken over the left. The burgeoise spill orthodoxies that are impossible to comply with unless you're wealthy and then exclude the working class from the movement. No one needs to be vegan, one can reduce consumption and practice a more ethical and sustainable diet without orthodoxies. Fuck the bourgeoisie, that keeps distracting from the class war.

It's entirely possible to have an ethical and diverse diet based on respect for animals instead of intensive husbandry. Naturally, the mental illness of the bourgeoisie doesn't allow them to understand anything but dogmatism. It's the same illness that stops people from understanding dems ans reps are two sides of the same coin. We're doomed.

edit: Voting consistent with US timezones, check!

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s entirely possible to have an ethical and diverse diet based on respect for animals instead of intensive husbandry.

No. Killing someone that doesn’t want to die is unethical.

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

So you're anti abortion?

/s

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 12 hours ago

This is the shittiest take I've seen all thread.

Eating meat is more expensive than not eating meat, it is more affordable for the working class to eat a plant based diet.

And fuck off with disparaging other leftists and liberation causes.

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"We need to do praxis to materially help the working class!"

"Cool. We can start by simply not eating certain foods in order to free up land, reduce pollution, and slow down climate change."

"Nuh uh!"

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because clearly, these problems are solved by our individual actions.

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. It's called 'organizing'.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago

And it works.

I’m from a country with a large meat and dairy industry and right now they are SHITTING THEIR PANTS and pulling tricks worthy of the tobacco industry to try and counter the tide. But it’s all for naught because being at least part time vegetarian is main stream now.

And that’s the key here. The aim is to break the political power of the meat and dairy industry, curtail their insane subsidies and stop them from destroying the planet on the taxpayer’s dime.

For that purpose, it’s important to have broad support and make an economic impact. For the revenue side 100.000 “meatless Monday” libs or 7.000 vegans make about the same impact (assuming 1 to 1 meat/dairy split), but you need to find a way to organize the libs.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago

This kind of pithy throwaway comments are depressing. No one is saying that it's all down to individual choices. At the same time, individual choices add up into collective movements.

It's like refusing to recycle because environmental threats require collective will and action to be solved. Sure, but at the same time, do your part and recycle your crap.

The need for collective action and solutions does not absolve us of individual responsibility.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago

How dare you demand i change my consumption habits? /s

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

It's so frustrating. Such a massive blind spot for people who want to see themselves as progressive and compassionate.

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The more we R&D fake meats, plant based or lab grown, the sooner we can achieve this

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We don’t need fake meat to go vegan today. That’s a luxury.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Just one more new plant protein bro, then I'll switch. For real this time bro, just one more fake meat, it's the only thing preventing me from going vegan bro. Trust me.

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[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

God no. Lab grown meat to compete with the normal meat will have to be cheaper than it. See how the capitalist leeches enshittified every other food (like meat), imagine how will they enshittify something that has to be cheaper...

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[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

This must be a cultural thing. Over here even most libs are trying to cut down on meat consumption.

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You can tell it's bourgeoise because it thinks paying extra 50-100% for alternatives is a choice and not a consequence of the lack of political will. The bourgeoise's children are the death of left idealism as they contaminate the movement with nonsense that detracts from the class struggle.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Vegan food is literally the cheapest food in the world.

Notice a correlation?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Pink means "more meat per person" on top chart tho?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, so the richer the country the more meat, and the poorer the country the less meat. Ergo eating vegetables is cheaper than eating meat.

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

there could be a thousand confounding factors. you probably oversimplified

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

you probably oversimplified

It’s not enough to just claim this. You’ve got to actually explain how they oversimplified 

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It could be that in wealthy countries it is cheaper to consume meat due to factors like subsidization. Or, as I said, a thousand other factors.

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It could be that in wealthy countries it is cheaper to consume meat due to factors like subsidization

You still pay for subsidies. You might not pay for it at the grocery store, but whenever the government is handing out money, that's coming from the people, indirectly or not

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

If its less money out of one's bank then the subsidies are a secondary consideration if they're considered at all

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -1 points 1 day ago

Yes, in Africa the main source of protein is not meat. It also shows everywhere else in the world it is. However, vegan == vegetable based. In Africa, milk is a staple source of fat and protein. But don't let facts get in the way of your bourgeoise assumptions.

Here, from your sources.

Using your reasoning not eating meat stunts child development. Notice a correlation? /s

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What are you on about.

It sounds like your saying vegan sausages distract from building class consciousness. Surely not, because that sounds as dumb as a bag of bricks.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We're all too broke to be spend 50-100% more on vegan food when we are stuck in a capitalist hellscape.

Eating is a need, eating ethically is a nice idea when rent/mortgage, utilities aren't taking up 70-80% of people's paychecks.

And ironically, THIS is the most bourgeois take. As if being vegan means buying beyond everything at Whole Foods 🙄

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago

I can buy a $1.70 bag of mixed beans, throw it in the instant pot with $4 of veggies, and have enough food for most of a week. What are you on about?

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

I have news for you about what kind of food makes up the bulk of the diet of the vast majority of the global working class

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