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If its less money out of one's bank then the subsidies are a secondary consideration if they're considered at all

It could be that in wealthy countries it is cheaper to consume meat due to factors like subsidization. Or, as I said, a thousand other factors.

there could be a thousand confounding factors. you probably oversimplified

you're just name calling

The central analogy to the civil rights movement and the women's movement is trivializing and ahistorical. Both of those social movements were initiated and driven by members of the dispossessed and excluded groups themselves, not by benevolent men or white people acting on their behalf. Both movements were built precisely around the idea of reclaiming and reasserting a shared humanity in the face of a society that had deprived it and denied it. No civil rights activist or feminist ever argued, "We're sentient beings too!" They argued, "We're fully human too!" Animal liberation doctrine, far from extending this humanist impulse, directly undermines it.

Speciesism is not merely plausible; it is essential for right conduct, because those who will not make the morally relevant distinctions among species are almost certain, in consequence, to misapprehend their true obligations.

what in the boomer book is this doing on lemmy

your not countering them, you're just being mean.

objectively, it is a veterinary procedure. that's the reality.

now who is putting words in others' mouths?

i haven't supported any opinions at all.

I haven't said they're lesser. I don't think they did either, but it's possible I missed it.

Artificial insemination is not a veterinary procedure

it is. denying it doesn't change reality.