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micromobility - Bikes, scooters, boards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles, heelies, or an office chair: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As a rider of a Kawasaki bike I quite like, zero chance you catch me on that thing; I'd rather an actual horse

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Careful, it might hear you...

[–] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

My first reaction: LOL. LMAO, even.

My second reaction: ... Wait, this could actually be really useful if it's actually functional and affordable though.

I'm not holding my breath, but like, in theory this could actually be really good?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah people still use horses in many places where any wheeled or even tracked vehicle can't go. It's pretty smart.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Will this be better than a horse though? You don't have to charge a horse, just feed it and water it (on the other hand, you can't repair a horse like you can a machine).

[–] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

I think it depends, but considering pure practicality, horses tend to require a fair amount of pasture and food that an electric "horse" wouldn't. You can't just leave a horse in a garage for a few months.

[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In the early 1900s, horses were the original "mobile emissions" source of pollution, causing great consternation to anyone that happened to be in their wake at the wrong time. Yes, we have troughs that catch horse poo now, but still doesn't perfectly mitigate the problem specific to horses.

And then there's the issue of horses on surfaces: on dirt, their weight cause erosion. On pavement, they can injure their hooves, plus the sound of horseshoes at full gallop on asphalt must be deafening.

(I promise this isn't a subtoot about automobile environmental impacts)

As an aside, in wilderness in America, where there is the most protection for the environment and anything mechanized (like bicycles) are prohibited, it is a bizarre historical exception that horse riding is permitted, in spite of the obvious degradation caused by trampling over everything. Wilderness is meant to be a nature-first place, but somehow it's actually horseriders-first, then nature.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LOL a horse is a living creature. It can be temperamental or ill and needs a barn and you have to clean it's shit. This will absolutely be better.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can eat a horse. If it comes to it.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago
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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Kawasaki is a huge zaibatsu, mostly driven by heavy industry sales. They tend to float some quirkly ideas no one buys, like the hybrid electric motorcycle.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In theory, it could actually be surprisingly good at uneven terrain, and Kawasaki isn't really a company known for fucking around, but on the other hand, they seem ridiculous.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Kawasaki isn’t really a company known for fucking around

Hybrid electric motorcycle. No one bought them.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just because you don't fuck around doesn't mean success is guaranteed. Was it a terrible bike or just unpopular?

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just unpopular. Some dude bought one near me. I can't say I get the reasoning.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I suppose the added cost of a hybrid motorcycle might put some off when motorcycles are already really fuel efficient in comparison to a car, maybe that's why it wasn't more popular?

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I would imagine an electric bike would be too quiet. Don't some people put loud pipes on a motorcycle to increase road presence in the name of safety?

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A lot of people say that they do, but it's just an old wives tale/excuse to have loud pipes. There's no good data to back it up.

As a single data source, I've been riding electric bikes for 3-4 years now and have noticed no difference. Drivers did seem to get worse during/after COVID-19 and after the boom of texting and driving.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

And poor police enforcement.

Motorcycles can't be ridden distracted.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's what they tell you, but it's just to make noise.

Electric bikes like Zero have actually lower collision rates than ICE bikes, and motorcyclist love to whine about cars, but 1/3 of crashes are all alone, 1/3 are their fault. The anti car bullshit is just tribalism.

[–] jmill@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is definitely an element of Tribalism. But in my experience you have to maneuver to avoid cars coming into your space more often on a bike or motorcycle than you do in a car. Not that it is constant, but it's a one or two times a week vs a couple times a month in a car. You're just less visible since you're so much smaller. Not that loud exhaust is a good fix, haha.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Back when I was riding regularly, I would start weaving back and forth in the lane whenever a car got to aggresive or started tailgating me. Just a gentle side to side bob.

People get suprisingly far away from you when it looks like youre going to lose control of a 600lb projectile a couple of feet in front of them.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Both. Heavy, needlessly complex, trying to solve a problem no one had, expensive. They had an EV bike that also sold poorly.

This is more about compliance for Japanese grants than sales.

30 years from now, people will buy them for YouTube channels but Kawasaki had to clear these below cost.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

So they did have a practical reason for doing it, it just wasn't to make a great bike.

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Yeah, exactly.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

but like, in theory this could actually be really good?

Yeah ... in theory, this could be an electric ATV capable of handling extremely rough and difficult terrain that would stop any other vehicle.

They need to call this a Battle Cat instead of an electric horse.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't wait to be hunted by billionaires riding these fucking things in our dystopian future...

[–] lemonySplit@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They'll just mount a minigun on it and hunt from their bunker living room using an OceanGate© controller

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Behold a pale horse...

[–] hallettj@leminal.space 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Frankly I don't see how the carriage-less horse will ever catch on.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Just attach a carriage to yours. Easy

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

it runs on hydrogen to generate electricity for propulsion

wat

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No way that thing runs on hydrogen, it would need a huge pair of balls to store the gas.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

aka fuel cell, aka gunna be a bitch to refuel and not very good

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to get two of them and have them haul my pompous ass around in a chariot.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

In this economy?

[–] hallettj@leminal.space 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not going to get one, but I do want to see this concept in anime

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

I doubt I'd pick one up, but I'd watch videos of people falling off of them.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hah, joke's on them. I've got a regular horse. Very green (actually brown), runs on grass (both literally and figuratively).

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Are you, by any chance, Professor Elemental?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Giddy-Up Buttercup?

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Good that we already have a dealership called Electric Horses in my city :-)

[–] Michal@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

People always wanted faster horses

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Get an actual horse. It's a pet + vehicle all in one !

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