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This is cool. I just hope game developers also get on this bandwagon. We could use a 4-year moratorium on increasing minimum system requirements.
not gonna happen with GTA6 releasing soon
Is it?
I feel like I could have raised a family in the time between its supposed release date and now, and it's still not out yet.
Rockstar are good at optimising their games. GTA V ran better than GTA IV on the same hardware. I wouldn't be surprised if GTA VI runs well on the Steam Deck.
It won't at all run on the deck. They blocked 5 from Linux a while ago.
Doesn't GTA IV famously soft lock if the frame rates too high because soon aspects of the animation cycle are blocked to frame rate?
GTA IV was released for the same generation of consoles, and also there was only a 5 year difference between releases.
GTA V came out in 2013... almost 13 years ago and we are two generations ahead console-wise.
I'm just skeptical at the idea that GTA VI will run well on Steam Deck, maybe on the future Steam Machine
i think its a bit much to still ask the steam deck to run new releases well, especially with valves refusal to release performance updated version unless they can make major, foundational improvements such that it would basically be a steam deck 2
the steam deck is 4 years old, afterall, and it wasnt exactly a top end machine when it released.. being little more than a slightly modified APU based system.
"Rescue"
Lol. What is the rescue if even DDR4 explodes? What does this help?
DDR4 is already ridiculously expensive, just not quite as bad as DDR5
And no where near as much capacity. It's a pretty terrible alternative.
Ah, AM4.
At 10 years old, it's still the platform that keeps on giving.
I'm running an AM4 Ryzen 9, with 64Gb of DDR4, and the thing cooks. AM4 is just great.
3 of my 4 desktops are running AM4. My main rig has a 5950x, the home theater PC has a 5500 and my wife's gaming rig has a 5600. I rebuilt the HTPC several months ago and specifically went with AM4 for price to performance (and because it's a Linux box)
I've been happily sitting on my R5 2600x for so many years now lol. My MB is an MSI B450 Pro Carbon and it can easily handle a 5950x or 5800x3D or whatever.
Add another 2x8 gb ddr4 for 32GB total and I'll be seeing some insane performance relative to what I'm already happy with, which will last me another 5 years easily unless the mobo dies.
It's really insane how well designed AM4 is.
And I'll be running it for at least another ten...
The way things are going we're going to need ddr3 mobos.
Been running an MSI motherboard, gpu, WD raptor, and haswell cpu since 2015-ish. My only regret is that I got the "K" version of the processor for overclocking, which lacks the VT-d extensions needed for virtualization goodies like gpu passthrough.
I still got mine with 32GB of ram. I will wait for it to appreciate in value and sell it to buy a house
DDR4 is cheaper than DDR5, sure, but retailers have jacked the price of both by the same percentage, so it's not really all that much of a rescue.
I expect people will need a full mortgage to pay for DDR6 when it comes out next year.
Unless he's some kind of purebred, you probably won't even get enough for one stick.
Sticking to DDR3 until society finally collapses , I am also building a nice ddr2 build for super cheap that still runs all my physical games collection!
I still have some DDR3, but no motherboard for it. We need DDR4, but I don't suppose anyone will want to trade in that direction.
And they called me a madman for spending months tuning the CO of my 5800X3D to its limits and also OCing my 3200 mhz Crucial Memory to 3800 Mhz. It seems this setup will stay with me until DDR6 arrives. I hope the prices get back to normal by then.
I don't think there will be a DDR6. I think the AI bubble is going to pop & all these data centers will become "mainframe centers" that your minimum spec'd home terminal connects to to do all the computing for you on "Our lightning fast multi-core super computer with terabytes of memory!"
😐😭🤮
You can't run normal programs on their weird AI architecture. This is the problem everyone has with all of the ram as well, when the AI bubble pops we won't get loads of cheap RAM because it's all configured for AI and doesn't really work on anything else. They can't just pivot, that's why they're so eager to make AI a thing.
I'm sure you can't do it easily, but I'm sure there will be ridiculous AI vibe-coded attempts at making it work that end in a catastrophic failure/data breach/scandal.
My understanding is that the RAM architecture is built around insanely quick read write access but doesn't really store data for more than three or four seconds at a time. Most modern programs expect the RAM to hold on to the data for basically however long they need until they access it. So most programs just won't fit into memory configured like that, and I think it's a hardware thing, not something you can change with software.
I doubt it. Those AI computers are built in a really weird way and have a lot of hardware that isn't really useful outside an AI/HPC context. Some stuff like the weird card to card network topology can be reconfigured but the rest of it can't easily be. The servers are rather agressively designed around keeping as many GPUs fed as possible making them kinda weird for other jobs. Those datacenter cards are missing enough video hardware (for example texture units) to make gaming hard and I'm not sure there's that much consumer demand for linear algebra accelerators. If they can't find more HPC jobs they may go under. Movie studios could have interesting opportunities here but they are still primarily using CPUs in all their software IIRC.
The clusters in the UAE and Saudi Arabia might be repurposable for nuclear weapons research which isn't great.
My understanding is that the AI companies push their servers so hard that the components are basically consumables. Consumers don’t really press their machines to the point of physical exhaustion.
Fuck this I'm going back yo freedos.
Best games are DOS games bitches!!!!
I've been playing a lot of Doom recently and I used to run that on an old 486. People just kept on making free wads for that for like 35 years.
Wat good is a board of there's no memory? AM4 has been happily humming along for years too, why is MSI special now?
DDR4 isn't as much a part of the memory shortage, though that seems to be shifting because DDR5 is jacked up. They're pulling a solid for consumers by releasing a cheap motherboard where memory can be gotten, or giving a transition for users with older components.
yep
https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/
ddr4 looks to have doubled in price but ddr5 is up 5x
The problem with this is that companies were winding DOWN DDR4 production before AI bought all the DDR5 RAM. So if no one can get DDR5, attention will shift to the already dwindling supply of DDR4 aaaaand... well, prices are already up and it's not going to get better.
i thought ddr4 production was shutdown, are companies still making it or is this until that supply runs out too?
It's still running. I submitted an article last month about how Micron was buying a facility that had actually just opened quite recently and was apparently producing DDR4 to refit it to make HBM; faster than building a new memory factory from scratch.
But as I point out in another comment in this thread, my guess is that this is more about being able to tap the already-manufactured used memory market. There's a lot of DDR4 already in computers, and as those computers get disposed of, as long as it's not thrown out and goes back on the market, that makes DDR4 available.
