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Moving the responsibility to anyone but the parents.
But who will verify the parents’ age?
The IRS.
Yeah this will end well.
You know what ? If this law is only imposed on commercial operating systems, and I can make my free OS lie and say I'm 100+ ; then maybe this could work.
No, you'll only be able to access the internet on approved devices. Anything that isn't under their full control will be disallowed.
Now instead of asking to verify age, make the parents input the age bracket and you reinvented parental controls. The correct way to protect children.
It's aight. We have Linux anyways, who cares about Windows?
You will need to verify your age to breath the freaking air next!
HOLY HELL
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
It's already laughably easy to parent these days. Parental controls are on every device and require so little effort. You dont even have to pay that much attentjo - the software literally analyzes use and reports notification. It's so stupidly easy and still people can't do it. Literally ask any of supporters of this what parental control system they use and most are dumbfounded and just change the topic.
It's never about protecting kids.
Eh… I agree that age checks are dumb, but have you ever tried parental controls on most phones these days? They are all complete shit.
What? The software is incredible these days. It literally detects dangers and warns you. Check out Bark which is only 14$/mo but even Google family does a lot of that for free
I’m sorry, but paying a third party subscription for a janky solution isn’t “incredible”.
Last I looked the kid just needed to learn how to vpn and it was over. Granted that was a few years ago. But I've not seen a software solution that there wasn't a way around. Unless you get something like a Gab phone for them.
If the child ignores the parents and uses hacks to bypass parenting controls then no parenting control will ever help. It's a tool and it must be based on existing parenting foundation not replace parenting.
If a child receives a smartphone the very minimum parents must do is establish trust in the social contract between the two parties: "I give you a phone and use a privacy respecting parental control if you agree to not mess with it and keep me in the loop". If this simple base cannot be established then all parental control is moot and we failed already.
It's really not that hard. I used to think these magement and conflict parts are the hard parts of parenting but it's really not, the hard part is how much time/energy kids eat up to the point where it's easy to be lazy and not pursue management solutions which are really simple.
From what I've seen on iOS it seems pretty tied down. You can set times when they can use specific apps, choose if they can edit contacts, have contact with people not in their contacts, make it so they can't change their passcode, make it so they can't log out of their account so they can't bypass it, set up ask to buy or w.e and make it so they can't install apps without your permission or get approvals sent to you for purchasing things. You can review all their screen times for individual apps without even picking up their device... And modify it from your device.
The only real bypass would be to factory reset the phone using a computer, but to get passed the activation lock they would need the password, and you could simply put the trust phone number as the parents number, thus the phone would be a brick and the parent would be notified when they attempted(and failed) to log back into the phone.
They are coming for android first.
Colorodo democrats have always been lousy. Here they are following texas and montana and tennessee, locking down the internet with dishonest arguments. No one in reality thinks this is about protecting kids, and it's not the state's place to do so, it's the parents, it's a violation of the 1st amendment to make adults expose their identities to people recording everything they do online and using it against them, and selling it to the government.
We need to repeal these bills, and we need a popular open source of model legislation to counter-act ALEC, that writes these bills and state lawmakers just fill in the blanks, after the united corporations give them a plausible excuse to and pay them off
It is the donors influencing all of them. Corrupt fucks
At this point, it's probably cheaper and more effective to have proper sex education in schools...
These people are idiots
I fully expect this to become a move to hamper linux, or any non-windows desktop usage, because "we can't trust a user who has full access to their OS" or some other bullshit.
This is getting ridiculous.
Linux is the only reasonable choice anymore.
What would be the point of that? If the check was done locally it would be trivial to spoof.
Technically, this can't work. It's a bad idea.
They want mandatory end user identification, through the backdoor. Can't tolerate any wrongthink, citizen.
Well my custom browser says my age is verified, we're all set here here. All set. Move along.
As a parent, I wish someone would develop a cross platform, open source, parental control tool that preserves privacy while allowing for strong controls that are simple to use. The best I could come up with is a separate instance of Pihole that any device my kids use is linked to. It would be nice if there was a software option or something implemented in hardware that allowed parents to register the device with the user's age (no identifying info). Laws could then be passed forcing certain websites and apps to reject any users under a certain age. The restrictions could automatically lift when the user reaches a predetermined age. I'm not an expert so there are probably aspects of this I haven't thought through but it seems better than what has been implemented so far.
Have you checked your modem/Wi-Fi router?
Sounds Dumb, I know, but many have them baked in.
It may not be perfect, but it covers all devices unless you can login.
I did. My router runs a version of OpenWRT and while I can blacklist certain domains, I can’t add lists of domains. They have to be added one by one. The pi-hole solution is much easier. I can add an entire list for social media. I can add a list that forces search engines to use safe search.
The best I could come up with is a separate instance of Pihole that any device my kids use is linked to.
It's a little clunky, but you can do this with one Pi-Hole instance by using the Groups feature. In the "Groups" tab make a group for your default Pi-Hole settings (or just use the already included Default group), and then make a separate group for the additional blocked domains for your children's devices (for purposes here we'll refer to this group as "Child"). In your Lists tab, choose which Group each list should be applied to (or choose the group it should be applied to while adding the entry). In your Clients tab use the drop down menu to choose and assign devices to Groups, put all your devices in the Default group and put all your children's devices in both the Default Group and the Child Group. This way your devices will have the default blocklists and your children's will have the default plus the additional blocklists aimed to protect them specifically.
Thanks for this! I’m still relatively new to Pi-Hole. I’ll give it a look.
No problem, I've been using Pi-Hole for years but have only recently started exploring options with the Groups feature. In fact I spent a few minutes messing around with it before I wrote my original reply to make sure I was going to explain it right. Don't be afraid to hit me up with questions, I'd be happy to try to help.
