I want the starfleet unisex dress
this post was submitted on 18 Feb 2026
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It's the pilot or first episode when you watch it on streaming all remastered and high Def and there's scenes where they clearly had trouble position the camera to avoid a tv-ma rating, that original outfit was so short. It's also rough she still had a lot of trauma from basically being used by the industry for sex appeal and noting else. But at least Star Trek had men in the background in the same length mini skirt.
Didn't they revamp the uniforms after season one because they were horribly uncomfortable?
IIRC from interviews that the uniforms remained generally uncomfortable. They were very stiff, and led to the famous “Picard Maneuver.” Sirtis’ uniform was changed to get rid of the dated “Cosmic Cheerleader” outfit. IMO her character’s early uniform was more in line with ToS’s making women on the Enterprise more “hot chick” than officer.
I love Marina but her character was so poorly written that Guinom (Goldberg's character) did Troi's job as counselor better than Troi ever could. Poor woman's entire role in the show was to be tortured and objectified while her character primary love interest shagged his way across the galaxy, Crusher probably got an award for her work during all his alien STDs.
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Possibly her best scene was in Enterprise, where during an appointment with Data you see that her PADD says "top beach destinations".
Problem is this is partially Marina's fault. From her own reaccounting; it was basically her first job. The writers would go to the other actors and ask what they'd like to do in a given episode, or how they'd react to something, basically making the actors part of the script creation.
But Marina told the writers "uh, I don't know. Write me something. That's your job, isn't it?"
By the time she realised she had the power to actually make her character her own, it was already several seasons into TNG and far too late to actually change anything. The writers had long since stopped trying to include her in the writing process.
Hmm... I'll try and find a clip of where she told this story...
To be fair tho, Gates told the writers a lot of things and got her ass fired as a result.
Yeah she had a lot more demand as a perform because she only worked theater beforehand and she knew what her worth was, and people tend to hate that. Shatner did a pretty good BTS doc on TNG and the kind of weird power plays that went on that even Patrick Stewart was occasionally the target of. This period of TV production was a real high pressure environment and people had careers given and broken over pretty minor shit.
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Mirana
What's going on here?
Typo. Shite. ^^;
Captain Jellico's "put on a real uniform" command was written in at Marina's request.
Smart move. Even by 1989's standards and fashions, some of the costumes they put her in were hideous.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I think she looked way cooler in uniform.
It's a popular opinion. She looks WAY better. Hotter, too, which shows how dumb Berman is.
Way cooler, and way more hot. Her "regular" clothes are tacky and off putting.
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I'm quite fond of the long dress she got for one season. I'm sure it was hell as a costume, but I thought it looked tasteful. I also have the idea that the psychological/psychiatric lead on the ship ought to look somewhat "different" when she's working. Her uniform should be more casual, because her role is one where you want people to be able to get away from the structure, and to trust her confidentiality. The catsuits were dumb, and the Farpoint / S1 miniskirt was scandalous. but I did like the full-length dress.
Pretty much every "show off the attractive female main character" outfit that they've invented for Trek has not worked for me. Troi's outfits, Seven's outfits, T'pol's outfits... I think that actually the only exception is the Farpoint miniskirt and even then it just looks attractive but I don't like what it meant for Troi's brains so all things being equal I actually like her the most in the standard uniform jumpsuit which is, quite frankly, already designed to make people look good.
Now that we're decades away from the show and everybody involved has been interviewed a bunch of times, what I actually wish we could have seen was Troi as the diplomatic counselor instead of the vague psychological lead / poorly utilized character that we got. Because if she was the ship's therapist the long dress would work because it is tasteful and different yet still professional, but then we'd not be seeing her on the bridge the way we did.
I've posted this before.
My head canon is that when a new civilization joins the Federation, they get to pick the new Starfleet uniforms. The Betazeds gave us the TOS miniskirts.
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“Gene Roddenberry’s vision” was usually an upskirt shot.
Which wasn't helped by Berman.
Oh the short skirts were 100% Gene. Rick is the one with the catsuit fetish. He was the one who decided to shrink wrap Jeri Ryan.
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"Dress was so short that you could see what I had for breakfast" is such an amazing turn of words
Carrie Fisher said of the slave Leia bikini that, because it was rigid, while she was laying against Jabba it rode forward and anyone standing behind her could see "all the way to China." and she opined that's why the actor playing Boba Fett preferred standing back there.
" All the way to Alderaan"
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Based Jellico.
I've seen so many meme edits of this scene that I was waiting for the reveal, lol.
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I still love how Jellico’s changes were all just stealth excuses for cast requests.
That being said, a four shift rotation is absurd.
They had to give Riker a reason to hate his guts to hell and back. And forcing him to organize and force his staff to do four shift rotations with no justification was pretty brilliant as a motivation.
Yes, and the moment Diana walked onto the bridge with a medical uniform on she instantly became a lot more hot.
The weird, tacky, revealing clothes she wore on duty were a lot more off putting.
I remember being a bit confused about why everyone other than her had to wear a uniform but she could wear "what she wanted".
Never would have guessed it was Star Trek producers demonstrating very non-Star Trek traits.
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Even back then I thought she looked like she was freezing.
Could be worse.
In the first season that dress was also worn by men... How woke...
But crucially, not by anyone in the main male cast. They threw a few skants on to a couple of male extras to forestall accusations of sexism. A figurative (and and near literal) figleaf.
Frankly, a unisex, utilitarian kilt would probably have worked a lot better for gals and guys, but someone got greedy for “underbutt” and ended up with an outfit so disliked that it was quickly phased out.
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The very last scene in Encounter at Farpoint, Yar is also wearing the minidress uniform, AFAIK it's the only scene with her in it. The camera zooms in from about where it is above into a close-up of Picard, and Denise Crosby very pointedly steps out of shot partway through.
I have to wonder if that scene wasn't the first shot actually filmed, if they weren't planning on just, having all the women in crotch-length miniskirts until they had a couple shots in the can.
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