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I believe anyone accused of a crime should have the right to a fair trial and a lawyer.

Until recently, I believed my opinion was mainstream.

It's not.

In Italy, a respected newspaper was attacked and vandalized by activists who claimed their coverage of the Middle East was biased. I find this extremely surprising. La Stampa has published many articles such as "Israel commits war crimes". Apparently that was not enough. There was just a wild claim on social media. That's it. Then people stormed the newspaper and vandalized it. Journalists received death threats. I think this is fucked.

Recently in France, a far-right activist was beaten to death on camera. He was on the ground and a crowd of 10/15 masked people kept beating him. The guy is far-right, but he has no criminal record. A crowd just decided that the death penalty was appropriate for him.

Never liked mob justice. Never will.

I believe anyone accused of a crime should have the right to a fair trial and a lawyer.

Apparently, that's no longer accepted.

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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The more unstable society is, the more that kind of thing will happen. You can thank the billionaires and politicians.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 7 points 2 hours ago

Is the fair trial in the room with us? Because i’ve not seem him in a really long time

Everyone SHOULD have the right to a fair trial i’m with that but that not how it work politician ? Nothing will happen to you, billionaires? Nothing will happen to you, far right? If the politician are also far right ( and most are now ) something might happen to you but the punishement will be a joke compare to the same crime commited by someone on the left or god forbid a non white person

Also and that might be education from family members who have actually fought them in ww2 but the only good fascist is a dead one

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

I would say that mob violence shouldn't be seen as any kind of "justice." It's not. It's violence from a vocal, active, and often not always fully representative group that wants emotional satisfaction over actual justice.

[–] baahb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 hours ago

Mob justice is for when a jury of peers is impossible.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

Should? Absolutely. Does? Nope. Sprinkle some selective prosecution on top for a treat.

I agree with your ideal, but that ideal is far from being a real thing, and we're getting further away all the time. Adhering to that ideal means that criminals walk free and openly commit more crimes, creating more victims. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 17 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I think this is still a majority opinion, but a lot of people don't exactly apply it uniformly. Lemmy (and Piefed, for that matter) is a bubble with a certain percentage of people who only consider this to hold true for people they consider "good".

I've seen some, imo, very VERY deranged takes on here about who "deserves" or rather "lost" their human right privileges, be it police officers, politicians, or people who inherited or otherwise obtained a lot of money.

[–] I_Am_Lying@lemmy.org 4 points 2 hours ago

I agree with this take. Just want to add that I think the more that people see a justice system skewed, so that certain classes of people are not treated the same as other classes within that system, the more likely you are to see some form of mob justice. In my country the three types of people you listed often get to avoid accountability. And do so very publicly. Which inspires people to want to force justice on their own.

Mobs are never nuanced or intelligent about their actions. They are a result of an emotional outpouring from within a nation's populace. Much like rioting, frequent instances of people calling for or participating in mob justice is a pretty big indicator that you've got some serious problems in your nation that need immediate attention.

Being upset at the mob is correct. It's also usually only one side of a multi-facted problem.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I've seen some, imo, very VERY deranged takes on here about who "deserves" or rather "lost" their human right privileges,

Same. I was accused of being a Nazi sympathizer for saying Nazis are human. I specifically had said upfront that I think they are awful and deserve harsh punishments for their crimes. Didn't matter. Just even stating the fact that they are human made me a monster/Nazi

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 4 points 2 hours ago

Frankly, I recognized myself like from 5 years ago. Then I realized that not having mob justice is a privilege that society achieved for a few brief moments before cancelling it all together.

What I believe now is that we shouldn't pretend that it's something alien to us. It just so happens it's all everywhere: from Maduro to Sudan.

soo...

a far-right activist was beaten to death on camera

Bella ciao

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

Apparently the French attack was committed by a group of anti-fascists in Lyon known for street violence, Jeuene Garde. The government banned them last year after they assaulted a teenager. I guess they are doing just fine.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't believe in laws or courts (which is too say I don't believe they have legitimate authority), and I don't believe in "rights". I believe people should be free. sometimes this means there will be angry mobs. but l would rather deal directly with my neighbors and community than have all our interactions mediated by illegitimate authority.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We found a sovcit in the wild

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)