Yeah but Luke Skywalker is white.
...that's all you need. :|
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Cracker farm-boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy blond hair, blue eyes.
Oddly played by the polar opposite in Mark Hamill.
He's good at that with Joker too.
Skywalker and the rebellion only attacked combatants. Big difference there.
So you say there was no independent contractors building Death Star in Return of the Jedi ?
They knew what they were signing up for.
Did they tho? Empire's propaganda has near endless resources and reach.
If you work on a military installation during a war, you shouldn't be surprised to find yourself in the middle of an attack.
Exactly - we’ve allowed our government(s) to dilute the definition of terrorism through constant misuse. It’s not terrorism to attack military targets, even if the attacker is a stateless actor. Similarly, it is terrorism to attack civilians, even when perpetrated by a government. Terrorism is not simply a catch-all term for unsanctioned violence.
So you're saying the state of Israel is terrorists?
Are you saying they aren't?
No 😂
I am.
I’m saying that many governments today and throughout history have committed acts of terrorism, including Israel and the US, as well as their opponents.
The people rebuilding the Death Star weren't combatants.
Also, didn't Stellan Skarsgard do some morally questionable shit in Andor?
Anyone working on a military base during a war is a combatant. They are contributing directly to the war effort.
In a society committed to total war, that argument can be used against civilians.
Ukraine is attacking Russia's oil infrastructure because it is funding the Russian war machine. They are valid targets, despite being run by civilians. I wish them good hunting.
The people rebuilding the Death Star weren't combatants.
WTF? Of course they are.
Yeah, the Rebellion we are shown through its heroes are not terrorists, they are a guerilla army. They don't want to break the Empire through citizen revolt after sowing mass unrest; they make precision strikes on military infrastructure and assassinate critical Imperial officials.
But there must've been a death star canteen, yeah? There must've been a cafeteria downstairs.
There are chefs and janitors on aircraft carriers.
I want the penne all’arrabbiata.
You'll need a tray
This one's wet...
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It hits different when you personally know stormtroopers.
Are you saying/implying they joined because they were forced to due to socio-economic hardships and very few joined because they supported fascism? Or was it the other way around?
Yes.
Coz Luke is white, bro. Imagine if they did everything the same, nothing changes in star wars, except Luke and Obi Wan are changed to black and brown guys.
How many of these people would still love the movie?
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But that's different. Luke is white.
The Empire vs the Rebellion wasn't black and white anyway. There was good and bad on both sides.
In newer Star Wars (especially stuff like Andor), I agree. In old Star Wars (especially episode IV-VI), no. These movies are 100% black and white.
The most grey character that exists in there is Darth Vater who's whole life of horrible atrocities was forgiven within 2 minutes because he betrayed space Hitler and was the Hero's dad.
In Episodes IV-VI, I think the Empire was portrayed as bad mainly due to their execution of power.
I think the Empire's ideals of order and stability don't seem so bad in theory. Even the Mandolorian TV show (which was set around that time) supports this perspective.
The virtue of stability is entirely dependent on the virtue of the system you are stabilizing.
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tbf, betraying space hitler to end the war...
Nah, I never forgave Anakin for killing the younglings. He doesn't come back from that. Period.
One person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist
Yea no, it was white and white 😐
Most people just watch movies for fun, they don't think about it.
You should watch them with my son, the film studies major. I try to discuss that cool violent scene, and he wants to discuss the existential nature of the antagonist's motivation or something.
Still people idolise darth vador...
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