Ahhh, so "Honor killings" are now acceptable in the US.
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Then he ought to be put down, for his daughter's honor.
He was gonna teach her gun safety, with a loaded gun while not respecting trigger discipline or the laser rule?
I'd say that's "a likely story" but the man's a Trumper so it's exactly the kind of stupid I'd expect.
Hadn't heard "laser rule" before, I assume it's the same as "don't point it at anything you care about".
Yes.
Essentially always pretend there's a deadly and infinite laser coming from the muzzle.
Just to add to this, it's a more helpful way to think about it, because people hear "don't point it at" and they think of "pointing" as an intentional action, like gesturing or taking aim, instead of thinking about all the small ways that a weapon moves as you reposition it or transition from one grip to another, and so on.
Yup.
It makes you think about not just where you point it, but everything it might "slice" as you handle it.
Or even how you set it down, or move around one sitting on a table.
A pretty good analogy. I've been taught that the gun is always loaded and ready to go unless it's fully disassembled. Only exception is when you personally checked that it is not and the gun haven't left your hands after checking it. And even then you don't point it to anything you don't want a hole in.
And the same rule applies no matter the type of gun you're holding. A bb-gun, .22 or .308, pistol or long barrel or whatever, they are all always loaded.
Okay, but, even ruled an accident, why is this guy not up for manslaughter charges? Do I grossly misunderstand what manslaughter is?
This is definitely some smoking gun tier bullshit, but even given every benefit of the doubt in the world, the negligence has to be criminal.
It's a small town. He's probably buddies with all the cops and DAs. That shit is super common.
"To shoot her through the chest whilst she was standing would have required him to have been pointing the gun at his daughter, without checking for bullets, and pulling the trigger," the coroner said. "I find these actions to be reckless."
Whoopsies! I usually make sure not to pull the trigger when casually pointing a loaded gun at a family member's chest. But that's just me being overly cautious.
I am baffled at how this doesn't constitute premeditated murder. They had some argument and then guy's like "know what? I know what I'm gonna do." And did it. What freaking horror.
You missed the part where the guy said he didn't mean to do that and he's sorry.
I just accidentally beat my daughter to death. The bat just went off on it's own. I was just showing her the bat then all of a sudden she was bludgeoned to death. I have no idea what happened!
"As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang," Kris allegedly said. "I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell." WTF!!! It proves he pointed the gun at his daughter, which is a big fucking NO NO! Worse yet, the damn thing was locked and loaded. Fuck him, charge him with murder.
There's no excuse for it to not be murder, but the fact its not even manslaughter is a message.
This is just an excuse, dude murdered his daughter and is trying to blame it on the gun. Guns don't load themselves, and they don't magically go off...
Exactly this. I was taught not to point a gun at anything I don't intend to destroy, even if I believe it not to be loaded.
Anything less than that is negligent manslaughter at the least if the gun 'goes off' 'by accident', because you should never be in that situation.
Where I live, in Europe, you CAN own firearms. Long guns pretty easily, as they are considered hunting/sporting guns, including semi-auto assault rifles, albeit, with 3 round magazines. Buying or even 3D printing larger ones is trivial, but it's a felony to have one near the gun (same range/car/house...).
Long gun licenses require a medical, which includes a basic psych eval.
Handguns require a stricter medical, with a more detailed psych eval, and a course which includes gun safety, and legislation, among other things.
Except for some rare exceptions (jewelers, judges, and other people that can objectively be considered a target for assault or retaliation) you cannot carry, open or otherwise, except to go to a range, or hunting ground, and the gun and munitions must be separated; guns in a case in the trunk, with the magazine and munitions in the front of the car.
I don't get why there isn't a reasonable license for guns in the US. There is for cars, no?
Guns have more rights than women in this country.
I've been rewatching Bojack Horseman, and there's an episode where Diane convinces the state to pass common-sense gun legislation by making it "in" for women to carry guns. The eventually leads to the line, "I can't believe this country hates women more than it loves guns," to which the character with her replies, "really?"
I think that moment is, unfortunately, rather poignant.
guns don't kill people, women kill people.
she killed herself by arguing with a man.
/s
#choosethebear
Texas is a shithole.
Supposedly an accidental shooting according to the article.
But sounds fishy to me, and yes, he should be in prison whether it was accidental or not. It was either a death due to deadly negligence or he's lying and murdered her, both of which should merit jail time.
Unfortunately guns are extra-legal here. The law or the people in most US cities doesn't care if the shooting was supposedly accidental.
No, no, you don't get it - he's admitted that he was under the influence of alcohol while handling the weapon (which he was showing off to his famously anti-gun daughter in the basement into which she was not allowed prior), so it means he's off the hook, it was basically an act of God! After all, how can we expect to punish people for what they're doing while drunk, right?
Yeah, SHE'S the one with Trump Derangement Syndrome.
"Kris reportedly moved to the United States when his daughter was still a child, and had previously been to rehab for alcohol addiction. He allegedly confessed to relapsing on the day of the shooting and drinking roughly two cups of white wine."
apparently its only bad when they send murders and rapists and they do not support trump or are part of his administration.
Wow, that’s shameful and disgusting.
Is the father even a citizen?
Hello ICE, I think I found one of those illegals 😏
A dangerous criminal too, the kind they promised they'd go after
Well, at least all the Texan children of MAGAts know they can "accidentally" kill their piece of shit Trumpanzee parents without going to prison now there is a precedent.
That would only hold if the law were consistent. This very obviously only goes this single direction.
Oscar Pistorius was charged and convicted.
This case exposes USA as a bigger shit-hole than fucking South Africa. That is really saying something!
Yet again we see that for country that is insanely in love with guns, they have no idea how to handle guns safely.
I will recap the basics of gun safety for the folks in the back:
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Don't pick up a gun unless you are going to use it and know how to use it safely.
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The gun is loaded, on a hair trigger and the safety is off.
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Do not point the gun at anything you don't intend to kill or destroy.
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Finger out of the trigger guard.
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THE GUN IS FUCKING LOADED.
Yeah that's how you know he killed her on purpose
It's so strange to me, the people that the public will hold accountable and the people who get a pass
Sometimes if I'm facing the wrong way in line at the grocery store or if I get randomly distracted by something, an old person or a woman will accost me, literally screaming and crying, complete with snot bubbles, because I've made some kind of basic and understandable error. I pressed the wrong button, I didn't see someone in line so I cut in front of them, I forgot to hold the elevator door.
This guy shoots his daughter and people are saying ridiculous shit, assuming that he's stupid or assuming that he's going to snap out of it one day. He can't just be a murderer. People are frothing at the mouth to make excuses for people like this.
Lawless shithole country.
My hope is that he will feel tremendous guilt for the rest of his life, and that his rationalizations might fool others, but never him.
He had told her he wouldn't mind if she was raped, because he had two other daughters.
So no, he'll feel no guilt for murdering his daughter.
He’s literally a remorseless psychopath.
"Texas fash bootlicker faces no charges for disposing of woke foreigner who happened to be his daughter"
Abort a dead baby? "That's a life sentence, you filthy murdering bitch!"
Shoot daughter for Donvict Drumpf? "There's not enough evidence to prove it was murder. We are just going to let him get away with it!"
I get that it was not intentional... but it's still homicide (I guess; in Spain it's that way if it was an accident).
That's normally what the charge of "manslaughter" is supposed to be used for in the courts. Murder would be with intent, manslaughter is any other act with deadly consequence.
Why that didn't happen in this case is beyond me.
There's a whole list of charges below murder. Even "criminal negligence" FFS. That he wasn't charged with something is ridiculous.
If it truly weren’t intentional (which it probably was, a Glock doesn’t just “go off” for no reason, as I understand), it would still be considered “manslaughter” here. He should’ve been indicted. This is insanity.
