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All of this... it could have been stopped. We don't have to love (or even like) the Democrats, but it was such an important election, and everybody was screaming to vote against fascism. Well, a lot of people couldn't be bothered, and it's here now. Hope our country survives this administration...
It's in part because Biden ran on opposing fascism, got elected, and then did nothing to oppose fascism. He sold himself as a dragonslayer, but once he got in, he didn't want to upset the pro-dragon crowd.
So, yeah, when his protege ran the exact same campaign, it didn't instill a lot of confidence.
He slow walked us to this, Trump should have been jailed, convicted, and in the dirt by now. But no, the neo-liberals didn't want to upset the MAGAts or something. His speech about needing both Democrats and Republicans made me SICK.
I can't help but feel like it's also in part because a good amount of folks are just... as delicately as I can put it... the kind of people that pick up a fork to eat a bowl of soup.
The rationale I have heard from tons and tons of voters just makes absolutely no god damn sense at all. There's of course mass manipulation and all that but goodness gracious, the complete lack of critical thinking skills is astounding.
I feel this. My in-laws voted for Trump because Biden was going to outlaw Catholicism in the United States. Absolute lunatics.
That is a really stupid reason to let a fascist win though. Like, why should I respect or align myself with such a stupid group of people?
Like, why should I respect or align myself with such a stupid group of people?
Which is exactly the question they were asking. You want someone to blame, it's the DNC.
The DNC is a bunch of completely corrupt people who were okay with Trump winning in 2016 and 2024 due to their own stupid antics fucking with elections and ignoring the will of the voters.
But again, the other side is literal Nazis. It's not completely weird to think that the DNC should have gotten away with their BS.
Scratch a neo-liberal a nazi bleeds. The fact ANY Dem has voted for any Trump nominee is a disgrace. They've lost the argument they're the paid opposition with me entirely. I don't subscribe to their BS talking about the actual left now because they marginalize us when we're winning or they're in charge, the whip us as the blame for losing.
And those people are still insisting that we don’t blame them for the consequences of their decisions.
'It's the dems fault for putting a brown woman as a candidate.'
“Of course I am not a misogynist! And definitely not racist, I have a black friend!”
Even if she was an old white guy, being a scumbag neoliberal who would not condemn genocide would have lost the election. Being brown and a woman made her an even harder sell. People are sick and tired of neoliberal dirtbags that do everything in their power to screw over regular people while gaslighting them about it. That’s not an excuse to refuse to vote against full-blown fascism, but there needs to be a reckoning against neoliberalism and capitalism in general before anything will change.
No more neolib candidates.
Yes, both parties suck, and you are allowed to dislike both, but they don't suck equally and not (completely) in the same way and you are obliged to decide for yourself which party sucks harder, which you dislike more, and most importantly - which are you the most scared of getting into power.
Just because you don't want to be neither leftist nor rightist doesn't mean you need to aim for the dead center. That's as dogmatic as aiming for one of the extremes, and in fact dumber because it's not even motivated by any ideology.
Also people who chase the word “moderate” because they desperately cling to the idea that being nonchalant in politics is a good thing are so focused on it that they will be a conservative just to avoid the leftmost party even if the left-most party is actually centrist.
Close to what you said, just exposes even more of how dumb it is.
Isn't it fascinating both sides are bad argument has been most effective in convincing those on the left to not vote?
Meanwhile that argument doesn't tend to work on the right and they brush it off and go out to vote consistently.
Psa: when reading the comments remember that maga want you demotivated and to stay home and just take it. Because they will vote, and they will not split their vote.
I've noticed both sides arguments have been most effective in convincing leftists to not vote.
But the right doesn't seem to be affected by it and comes out to vote consistently no matter what.
Here's the thing: When you don't vote, you COULD be saying that both candidates are bad, and you don't like either of them...
Or you could be saying that both candidates are great, and you love both of them. That you're sure either of them will do an equally good job of running the country, so it doesn't matter who wins.
And if you don't feel that way, then you need to VOTE
Seeing the responses here ... and it's no wonder why Trump's in power.
In person, I don't really see a whole lot of people in the US admitting or claiming that they didn't or don't vote.
I do, however, see a lot of life-long Republicans and known Trump voters making claims like "I don't really use social media" and "other than the weather I don't keep up with the news", both of which I know are lies in many cases.
However, giving them benefit of the doubt on that, they're admitting something equally as bad: They aren't educating themselves, they aren't informed on important matters, and facts do not matter to them. They're shirking their responsibilities.
Personally, I've always, always, always operated under the principle that our rights come with responsibilities, so I find it shameful that so many people are so negligent in that respect.
Yes but the other side is a woman.
The US political system is so, so very broken and honestly needs to be built up from scratch.
Voting should be compulsory.
Voting should be accessible.
The bar for entry to run should be much lower and more accessible to people who want to run and make a change.
Preferential voting should be considered.
The people should have veto power over government if there is a vote of no confidence to allow a dissolution of said government and snap elections held to redistribute power in favour of the people.
And so much more. Like getting rid of gerrymandering, electoral college etc. So that the votes actually reflect what the people want. If the country is mostly progressive, then it moves in a progressive direction.
Etc. Etc.
One side has real Nazis
And the other side seeks to compromise with them.
OK, we fucking know, so? We should let the Nazi's win because the Democrats are spineless capitalists?
The point is that we can't count on neo-liberals to do the right thing, they're complicit in all this. So the Dems as a whole aren't a party we can rely on until we primary them out.
Just commenting to get it past 88 comments. Crisis averted.
If only the corporate Dems were actually on the good side... Sigh.
At least they aren't openly nazis. When presented with two evils, pick the lesser. If you don't pick either, bigger evil benefits for you not voting rather than voting against it.
I know, it feels pointless when the opposition is only marginally ~~better~~ less evil. But I am reminded this one motivational speaker who told me you have to make it difficult as possible for them:
If enough people always vote for lesser evil, and demand justice and accountability, it accumulates. Sure, a political party may spend a minimal effort to brush the one protestor off, but many will be more difficult to ignore. Eventually they have commit political capital and resources to answer the dissatisfaction, even if it's to defend themselves. And those are resources they have to divert from the usual fuckupperies. At some point it will be easier to budge to the demand of a large demographic.
If a politician can ignore a demographic for free, they will. An act of small resistance is still resistance.
Go vote, but it’s worth remembering that for the most part, the other party only does milquetoast critiques of the Nazis at best.
I would love to get away from our current 2 party system...
But until then please we have to stop electing the tyrant side.
The democratic system gave up on serving the disenfranchised long before the disenfranchised gave up on the democratic system.
If you want to be angry, be angry at those protecting the system from change, not the people who have given up hope that it can be changed.
Be kind to people, be ruthless to systems.
As something of an anarchist, I never voted until the nazis became a big political force in my country.
Now I vote every election because by not voting I'm letting the nazis grow.
