That's video game culture where noob is an insult. No way to master something without being a noob first.
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Don't listen to the gatekeepers. They were a noob too at some point. Noobs are also gamers!
*That's battle royal culture
I thought that was being a trouble Japanese student, sent to an island with your peers to fight to the death?
This took me a very long time to learn: you don't have to be immediately good at something if you enjoy doing it. I'm terrible at painting minis, but I have fun doing it. I was awful at BBQing when I started out, but I enjoyed experimenting with rubs and iterating on the best way to get the coals going. Sure we had a couple gnarly racks of ribs in the early days, but now my daughter demands them on the regular. I was a terrible coder at ten years old, but I kept at it because I loved being able to make the computer do things and I'm tolerably good at it now.
I can't remember which Contrapoints video I got this from, but amateur derives from amatorem (lover in Latin.) The amateur pursues something for the love of it, not because they're good at it or want to make money. Society wants us to grind, use all of our time for maximum profit, and only do things we're already amazing at. Fuck that. Do something you'd love to do, even if you somehow remain fully mediocre at it. It's good for you.
Here is a song that relates to your comment
"Art is for Amateurs", by Jam Mechanics (a collaboration between Narcissist Cookbook and Bughunter)
Oh awesome! I like Narcissist Cookbook but missed this one. Thank you.
Why are video games fun to learn but hobbies are not?
Why when I built my first Factorio base I'm like "This looks like hot garbage and doesn't work lmao I love it" but when I paint I'm like "This looks like hot garbage I must destroy any evidence that it ever existed and never paint again."
Because in video games and computer stuff in general you can always redo perfectly. In reality it's messy.
At least that's what it's like for me.
Because you haven't learned what a 'good' factory looks like yet, so you’re free to explore.
But you’ve spent your whole life looking at great art. Your taste is developed, but your skill hasn't caught up.
Let's track on that every mistake in real life costs real money. Mistakes in factorio are free.
Lol I'm the complete opposite. With pretty much all automation games I'm really trying to do everything perfect; perfect ratios, no bottlenecks, no waste etc. While with something like music, while I like to be perfect I recognize that, depending on the song, it might take a lot of practice
There are a LOT of videogames that I pick up and play for maybe half an hour until I get to some huge complicated system and have to choose whether I want to commit to learning it or not.
Like, I recently played a translation of Racing Lagoon for the PS1 and loved it up until I needed to start upgrading my car. After an hour or two of reading guides and trying to forget everything Gran Turismo taught me I eventually gave up. Maybe I'll try again another day.
It’s okay, when I pick it up again in 2 years I’ll be slightly less shit.
I'm in this picture and I don't like it.
I call BS, I don't look at all like that.
That's my girlfriend. She bought a knitting kit because she wanted to try it. She quit within 30 minutes because it was "too difficult". I sadly wasn't able to convince her that almost all hobbies take practice and that it's okay to make mistakes, especially when - but not limited to - starting out
It took multiple starts and finishes before I got the hang of knitting. What really made me understand it was an arm-knitting class (using our arms in place of needles, with thick, chunky yarns) at a craft store. Having somebody show me how to do it, it all clicked. It's amazing what a few minutes with somebody who really knows a craft can do for helping someone just starting out.
me with visual art and drawing.....i pick it up every couple of months, it looks bad, i give up, rinse, repeat. I think I've gotten a little bit better throughout the years at least! And I know it's not good to hold myself to other people's standards, and even if my art is shit it still has more value than AI slop! But I still look at it and I'm like, "this sucks lmao", and I wish I could unlearn that.
Yeahhh that's me with some things, especially some video games
Ngl opposite for me. It's really fun until I start getting somewhat decent at it.
That's because you're hitting the intermediate part where improvement slows down drastically
I start with slme thing and do it for a pretty good time and then suddenly one day becomes the last day of doing it. Prominent example being drawing
This, plus parents and teachers yelling at me for getting frustrated so early in the process. As a kid I was literally told I was "stupid and selfish" for expecting to quickly become good at something (jumping rope). At the same time as I was told I was "mentally r***ed" for not learning other things quickly enough (algebra).
I feel both seen and attacked 🥲
As far as I know im not autistic that I know of by like another commenter I think its more that I get bored if I get into the realm of being good at it or I was good at it and am out of practice but it drives me nuts how bad I am now so I just don't want to do it enough to get back to the level. And then worst of all I have this thing that makes me want to try it a different way which the large majority of times is worse than the standard way. Its a good thing if your like doing research or investigation but not so much for getting things done. I always felt like some sort of ivory tower type in some ways. Better at looking into something, grasping it, and giving advice on how to go or getting it bootstrapped but im kinda a sucky doer. Oh man though when it comes to fitting as much stuff into a space like packing. im your man.
My fingers are too stupid to learn guitar 😭
as someone who plays guitar, they don’t have to be that smart, they just have to know what sounds good
and that knowledge comes with time
One of those finger strengthener things also might help. What's difficult for me other than just moving between notes quickly is actually holding the strings against the fretboard hard enough. No other instrument I've learned required strength lol
It’s less strength and more proper technique that makes strength from muscle groups and strong angles plus flexibility. Most anyone can learn to play guitar with a competent teacher who can show you when you are making things harder for yourself with bad technique
Sounds like you should try thinner strings.
I have wondered if I should try nylon strings.
You could try it, but I wouldn't recommend it. If it's an acoustic, try electric strings on it. Like some pink Ernie Balls or something.
It's electric. And...
You mean these?
Yep
i’ve never had an issue with that
then again, i have been playing video games since 2008 at the latest