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alt textA drawing of a person laying on the ground, seen from the side. There is text on the image, "We still talk about you". Deep in the ground, there is the Adobe Flash logo.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 1 month ago (3 children)

today adobe announced they are killing adobe animate, which was one of the last remnants of flash. instead of making it open-source, or just leaving it alone, they are stopping updates in march this year, and making the program completely unuseable next year.

i'm not gonna dwell on the usual platitudes about how evil adobe is. you've heard them before and you'll hear them again. but, yea 🙃

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hbomberguy sighs as he adds another 30 minutes of runtime to his next video.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Based on his production time vs video lent length, next one will release in around a bazillion years.

I wish he would plagiarize and get 3 videos every week

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope people put in the effort to patch out whatever time bombs Adobe puts into it like people did with Flash player.

Although unlike with Flash player, there's probably not going to be a China version that continues to produce updates for it.

[–] Hexarei@beehaw.org 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's also an open source runtime for flash now, to. Ruffle is super neat

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

i’m not gonna dwell on the usual platitudes about how evil adobe is.

I never talk about Flash. I do, however, talk about how evil adobe is.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 50 points 1 month ago (5 children)

In it's heyday nerds like us fucking hated it because it was a proprietary plugin that broke sites on an otherwise open web. We remember it fondly because it made animation accessible for young creatives. In Winter 08/09 I was interning on the first season of Ugly Americans and they were still animating in an old version of Flash MX, even though like CS6 was out by that point. Today though there are creative apps where you can still do Flash-style vector animation, and the modern internet has no problem serving up rendered videos of the final output without the need for a plugin.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

We remember it fondly because it made animation accessible for young creatives

And simple games, too. But yes, I agree with you; what people remember fondly isn't Flash itself, it's what it enabled.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i think you're right. the technology itself was arguably garbage, i've heard from many people i have no reason to distruss that it was a security nightmare, and i don't especially miss going on any random website and seeing "you need to install the adobe flash player extension!"

still, the modern web feels different. even if HTML5 and WASM can do everything flash could and then some, it's not the same... you don't really see websites filled with amateur web games anymore.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

still, the modern web feels different. even if HTML5 and WASM can do everything flash could and then some, it’s not the same… you don’t really see websites filled with amateur web games anymore.

I guess the tools are better but the passion is gone. The whole web was amateur back then; now it's all... you know.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There’s still plenty of amateur web stuff around. It’s just not nearly as big a percentage. Lemmy is kind of amateur web stuff. (Not calling Lemmy devs amateur, it’s just not a big corporate bullshit platform.)

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, there is. But it's more like a bunch of tiny nature reserves in the middle of a sprawling metropolis, full of "BUY IT!" flashy signs. When the old web was more like an expansion of wilderness, you didn't need to look for amateur stuff to find it.

(I agree Lemmy has that same vibe.)

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

I don’t think that’s accurate. There’s orders of magnitude more amateur stuff online now than back in the Wild West days of the web. The sprawling metropolis didn’t shrink any of the expansive wilderness, they both grew, at different rates. It is harder to find the amateur stuff, but that’s not cause there’s any less of it.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And simple games

...and a major Slovakian bank Tatra Banka used it for internet banking until 2019.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

Nowadays this would be seen as insanity. (Back then, too.) Like, Flash wasn't exactly the safest platform out there, specially not to handle money.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My problem with it's death was everything lost because of it.

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[–] plant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Mist101@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 18 points 1 month ago

ShockWave was a similar software platform for interactive media that was initially a competitor with Flash until it was acquired by Macromedia.

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who hackers? Zero day exploiters? You still have PDF for that

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't let the dream die, install Flashpoint today!

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I discovered flashpoint a couple months ago. It works great even in Linux. I love to play some old Flash games.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Related question: Does the game "Mike Shadow: I paid for it" work for you on Linux? It doesn't for me, except for the Infinite Cash Hack version.

Just curious because I discovered this game not working a couple days ago, will maybe report it as a bug.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It seems to work, I got a white screen for a little while, I thought it would not work and as I was about to close the window it started. I played the first stage and it works. Mabe just wait for it to load ?

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Turns out my game was somehow not installed correctly. Because it's a legacy game there is no uninstall option (which is what I would've tried) but you can right click the game in the grid -> Show Game in Explorer and delete the file to force a reinstallation. After reinstalling, the size of its .swf tripled.

I guess the game was downloading during the white screen and I must have closed and interrupted it.

But thanks for checking, I wouldn't have discovered the solution otherwise!

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[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Has Madness, but still no Gangsta War.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sometimes copyrighted stuff gets dmca'd?

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You have to be a special kind of asshole and copyright troll to DMCA claim a flash game that can't run anywhere officially.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Oh, but the world is full of those. It even seems like they are the ones who succeed in life unfortunately.

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago

Here is an open source multiplatform flash engine/player written in Rust;

https://ruffle.rs/

https://flathub.org/en/apps/rs.ruffle.Ruffle

[–] morto@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago

I take it the technology was shit, but damn, people made awesome things with it

[–] horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago

Badger badger badger

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Flash was very influential to my life surprisingly

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm so glad it's dead and buried. The pain that shit piece of software caused me trying to get it set up on Linux to watch YouTube back in the day. I broke multiple installs over this shit. Also anything from Adobe I consider malware.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

It was from Macromedia before :(

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

Rip Bloons TD

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do we? I’m a web dev and I haven’t talked about Flash in years.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are talking about it now .

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Correct. And I haven’t talked about it in years.

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[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Strangely we really do. Nothing like it.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

type:swf does however bring up around 8.5k results on e621.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago

WASM intensifies

[–] kora@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Oh boy, here I go again with Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music. Early 2000s Flash content was sick!

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

First flash, then even Flipnote… 😞

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I forgot to archive my favorite Flash game... I asked the studio behind it and they don't have it anymore :( (There's still the publisher and perhaps people with rare CDs...)

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