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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Alcohol costs money. Middle class is dead. Probably will see a lot more people making homemade things.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

My mom and dad and myself and my younger brother are all alcoholics. Two of us have recovered, two of us have not.

My youngest brother is on the spectrum and refuses to touch alcohol at all because he's watched it destroy lives and steal souls.

That's how this chart plays out in my family., ymmv.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

They have to spend like 80% of their income on housing. The rest on groceries and bills.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Now show cbd/pot use.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 points 2 hours ago

Isn't it common for people to start consuming alcohol with age? I found it disgusting still at 20

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It’s because they can barely pay rent.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, poor people are notoriously sober

[–] pregnantwithrage@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

My alcohol consumption has dropped directly because of this. I use to get a six pack and a bottle of wine and go out a few times a month and now I literally can't afford any of it.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 14 hours ago

On July 1, 2024, the census estimates of the number of each generation of drinking age, if I'm reading this Excel spreadsheet correctly:

Gen Z (born between 1997 and 2012, but as of 2024 the only legal drinking age was those born between 1997 and 2003): 31.3 million

Millennial (born between 1981 and 1996): 74.1 million

Gen X (born between 1965 and 1980): 65.6 million

Boomers (born between 1946 and 1964): 66.9 million

So assuming that 20-somethings have less money to spend on expensive alcohol, and recognizing that Gen Z has less than half the drinking age population as the other generations, it's not surprising for that generation to spend less on alcohol, even if their habits weren't different than the older generations.

Now, their habits actually are different, so that might stretch things further. But a better way to present the data would be adjusted per capita. And maybe looking at historical data about when prior generations were the same age.

[–] BioDriver@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago

This needs to be per capita, not total

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Gen Z hasn't been 21 or older for as long as the other groups, thus they haven't spent as much on booze yet.

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 3 points 5 hours ago

But it's true in gen Z outside US as well. So something like affordability is a problem globally for them.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Have you seen the price of a beer now? Each night at the pub ends up being $100+

[–] babyfarmer@lemmy.world 87 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Considering half of Gen Z isn't even legal drinking age yet, this isn't too surprising.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

Plus with declining birthrates in developed countries there are probably fewer overall Gen Z people than older cohorts. So even if they drank at the same rate you could still expect the absolute amount of alcohol consumption to be lower.

[–] Otiz@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

By that logic it should be around 10B by now

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

People in their 20s tend to buy well drinks and cheap beer unless they're independently wealthy. Older people tend to have more expensive, or at least more specific, preferences.

Raw spending doesn't mean much in isolation.

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

No because the half that currently can't drink might drink twice as much

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Fading", more like jumped off a cliff.

There is no safe amount of alcohol to drink.

Everyone is broke.

They watched their parents make asses of themselves while drunk, and today everyone has a video camera in their hand.

[–] lankybiker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I think this sums it up

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 95 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wow, I don’t spend nearly this amount on alcohol

[–] mbp@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago

Those are rookie numbers. Gotta push em up

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 6 points 22 hours ago

Don't worry, I'm bringing the average back up again.

[–] clav64@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago (3 children)
[–] kungen@feddit.nu 13 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Stimulants like Adderall and Xanax are often misused to cope with academic and social pressures.

I never knew benzodiazepines were stimulants.

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[–] Tobsn@thelemmy.club 5 points 22 hours ago

And often less harmfull than alcohol

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[–] terraborra@lemmy.nz 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because they’re weak.

In all seriousness, income has stayed about the same in nominal terms, but the cost of living has gone way up even between millennials and gen z. So really income has gone down and booze is much more of a luxury.

[–] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s part of it but also anecdotally a lot of us are aware that alcohol in pretty much any quality has negative effects and therefore don’t drink at all. There’s a lot less pressure to drink than in expect there was for other generations, it’s pretty normal for me to meet other people who prefer not to drink.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

alcohol in pretty much any quality has negative effects

The key is that this guidance came out somewhere between millennial and gen z coming of age.

When I was a child the TV news would run "health" stories about how moderate amounts of red wine are good for you. It turned out those studies were funded by the alcohol industry.

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Man I went to a party last week, had one glass of red wine and no other alcohol, and woke up the next morning with a killer headache. I’m 42 and not much of a drinker but this kind of reaction made me think it was specifically the red wine. I ain’t doing that again for a long while, if ever.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Now this is a half remembered anecdote so... pinch of salt.

But I do remeber something about some people having negative reactions to the tannins in red wine. So it might not so much be the alcohol.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Drug use, and especially problematic drug use, has low price elasticity and the US is a relatively high-income country. The cost of living is almost certainly a negligible factor in the decline of alcohol consumption.

Although most of the gains have gone to top earners, US real median household income has trended slightly upwards over time and is not "way [down]."

Moreover, high-income European countries where even fewer people are budget-constrained when it comes to drug use have also seen dramatic declines in alcohol consumption.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Normalize it for age. How much did GenX spend at 22 vs GenZ? It could be similar, but it’s not clear. Of course old people have more disposable income once the mortgage is paid off and GenZ can’t get a mortage, just an expensive rental.

There’s a big drop off in drinking overall and it’s a good thing. Yet genZ is back on nicotine.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 16 points 1 day ago

Wait until you see Gen Alpha's spending on alcohol!

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

lol this thread not realizing it's a shitpost, half of gen z have not make it to drinking age and this data could be years old

We're less social, drinks in public spaces have gotten too expensive, weed

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

I would assume it’s because most of them are still children.

[–] homes@piefed.world 11 points 1 day ago

I suspect that smoking weed has replaced a lot of drinking for much of GenZ.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Millennial here. Pressure was there to drink when growing up. College everyone was boozing. You were weird if you didn't booze.

Times are different now and the pressure is off. I think this will be huge, plus weed is a way better vice. Hangover is basically zero, no long term effects with heavy use, and generally a fun time.

Rather debate the moon's creation than drag Becky out to the car again and hope she doesn't puke in my car.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

Cocktails are $20 a pop. Hell, mocktails are like $15 a pop and they don't contain alcohol.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is Gen Z even allowed to drink yet?

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I've seen the line drawn a few different places, but generally Gen Z starts at around 1996-1998 or so. In any case, the oldest Gen Z have been drinking age for a while.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago

At least some of us are, yes. Im generally considered gen Z and ive been legally allowed to drink for years

[–] BananaChips@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago

The last gen z are nearly finished with high school. The oldest gen alpha kids are in high school. We're a year into gen beta being born.

[–] troed@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

Internet and games. Stay inside sober and have fun - including chatting with possible partners - instead of going out drinking trying to get laid.

/GenX who did the drinking variant. Gen Z has it better.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because they have no money!

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