I didn't even know there was a Patreon app. I signed up through the website. On a computer. Old school.
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Technofeudalism.
So, all business is becoming a protection racket?
Gotta love walled gardens! /s
To follow this logic: if you use an e-banking app, Apple will soon claim to be entitled to 30% of all transactions. Same for paypal, ebay, you name it
Yes! Exploit the morons as much as they're willing to be exploited!
None of them have the brains/balls to fight back.
This is the second phase of enshittification. They are hurting yhe businesses with this, not the consumer.
To make this clear: Patreon is a platform mainly used by creators, artists, musicians to get a reliable income directly from their fans. Apple is trying to steal 30% of the income of our favorite artists.
Good thing none of us have iPhones here, right, guys? Right?
Honestly I wouldn't touch Apple products with a bargepole. I dislike closed ecosystems
Gotta recoup all those fascist donations
There are a few EU alternatives. Why are those not being considered.
LiberaPay is one.
Timmy Cook is just a bean counter. He's got nothing to innovate or build. That's Apple has been buying back shares non stop. Their lead designer jumped ship a while ago. It's only a matter of time.
Why does Apple feel they deserve a 30% cut? In cases like this, Apple aren't providing any value at all.
- Apple aren't providing the content - the creator is.
- Apple aren't providing a platform for the content - Patreon is.
- Apple aren't providing a platform for discovery - people aren't finding Patreon creators solely via Apple products.
Sure, Apple are providing a payments platform, but why do they deserve 10x what Stripe charges?
It's just platform-milking, just like Meetup.com's latest antics; there isn't deep analysis needed to everything, haha. "Capitalism" is totally a legitimate answer despite being just one word.
kinda like how youtube takes massive cut of ad revenue, which is why they switch to patreon, brand deal and promotions. 30% is pretty steep for small content creators, that isnt peddling right wing grifting.
Choose another payment method. Choose another platform - web based? - where these fees don't apply. Hell, buy a throwaway droid phone to keep your money from apple's greedy hands.
What exactly does Apple think that they're brining to the equation in order to deserve that 30? Is it simply that they're hosting an app on their store, so therefore they're entitled to a cut?
So if I write a novel, and get it published, Microsoft can say "We deserve 30% because you used our product to produce your product?
I'm so fucking tired of corporations. It's well past guillotine-o-clock.
I fucking hate mega corps. It's never fucking enough... Ever... Apple has more money than some countries yet these assholes want ever more....
Tax all these assholes into oblivion!
I hope Patreon will just switch off the ability to pay through the iOS app, along with a nice fuck you-message to Apple that pops up when you first open the app
If I was on Patreon I'd tell them to pull the app. Fuck em they have a website.
Just crank all iOS user payments up by 30%, explain why, and let nature sort itself out.
Apple doesn't allow this - they expect your price to be the same everywhere or they'll remove the app from their store or decline version updates. There have historically been a few high profile exceptions privately negotiated, and I think they were forced to relax this in the last year or two, but here they are again trying to claw away money they did literally nothing to earn.
Why isn't Apple trying to take 30% of all purchases through the Amazon app? Or eBay? Or your local grocery delivery? It's the same exact thing. Such a stupid greedy fucking attempt
We will need an alternative to Patreon that even people on Patreon can go to
No, you need an alternative to apps in the Apple app store, which already exist. Don't pay for anything through an app on an Apple device, they will rob the creator. Pay through the Patreon web site.
Liberapay, Kofi
Direct payments with Monero seems like the best option.
Everything else takes a cut, which they do not deserve.
Hasn't this type of thing already been litigated?
Yes it has, but now, all of our consumer protections have been obliterated
That’s how the system works. You don’t expect Walmart to not get a commission when you sell something at their store.
30% is reasonable. DEAL WITH IT.
Don’t like it? Make your own phone and platform.
Opening up the comments on macrumors never disappoints me :)
It's wild that Steam is getting a class action lawsuit for charging 30% right now, and Apple doing shit like this at the same percentage and legally is getting a free pass.