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Nah, they're based as fuck. Royalty willingly abdicating the throne to become one of the people should be applauded, not criticized. Though they could have established a new government of the people before doing so...

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 day ago

I preferred Lev Grossman's version. In his Magicians books and their TV adaptation, the equivalent to Narnia is called Fillory and was created by two gods for their amusement. The rulers are required by divine mandate to be children of earth, specifically because one of said gods is on the southern edge of chaotic neutral and the idea of requiring all rulership to be invaders from a foreign world amuses him greatly.

In the TV adaptation, there's a whole thing where said children of earth arrange for an election to make things more legitimate and one of them wins by accidentally running on a pro-bestiality platform (stemming from a single comment at a bar) and then learning the talking animals outnumber the humans by a huge margin.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well there are the indoor toilets and plumbing, easier access to food, lights at thr flick of a finger switch. Malls, internet, cellphones, and other post-medieval conveniences

[–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

They returned to the middle of the second world war lol.

yes. the famous internet, you access through your cellphone, that you buy in the mall... during the blitz.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago
[–] swagmoney@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

i fucking wish i could ride the subway

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 110 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (26 children)

I've thought about the isekai genre (ending up in another world) a lot lately and how a big part is usually the characters trying to find a way home. I wondered what percentage of people would actually want that nowadays. I suspect it's considerably lower than it used to be.

"As for you, young lady, you want to go home, right?"

"No, not anymore. I want to stay here and become the new wicked witch."

"Nonsense! Now click your big honking boots together three times and wish to go home to Kansas to live in poverty with your dirt-farming, teetotaling aunt and uncle!"

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Old isekai had the MC want to go home. Modern isekai has the MC wanting to start over and stay in their new world. You can chart the change based on how dissolutioned young adults are about the Japanese Dream of stable employment and raising a family.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sword Art Online's original premise sounded kinda fun to me tbh. Though I have a feeling the whole "society makes sure that the players get life support in the hospital while they are stuck" wouldn't work as nicely in RL as it did in the anime. But "can't log out of video game because it'll kill me if I really try" would be kinda nice for a while.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People were dying because eventually power outages, and people pulling the plug. It was a major plot point.

But uh there's a reason he goes right back in LMAO

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I think it was episode 2 that mentioned some people just disappearing to never return and others disappearing temporarily while they were being moved to hospitals and the Nerve Gear having capacitors or something designed to allow it to be unplugged for a few hours before it does the death shock to allow for that.

It seemed like it wasn't a recurring thing, so most of the players in the game at the end of ep 2 must have been moved to hospitals (or had other life support options).

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (27 children)

There's a big trend in recent isekai to just outright kill the character at the beginning. So, you're either reincarnated into another world or your soul is snatched upon death and body recreated in the other world as an explanation for why the character isn't spending their whole time just trying to get back, but I do think that would be an interesting angle to explore.

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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All so that we can figure out that God is a magic talking lion

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 1 points 16 hours ago

Well, jesus. I don't think we ever actually see god in the books.

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is Aslan a God, or just a very old entity? I haven't read the books.

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

He says quite clearly that on earth his form is a lamb instead of a lion, and the last book is a straight eschaton.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's 100% an allegory for the Christian God, but idr if he's the canonical God in Narnia itself.

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's literally sacrificed as a Christ figure

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the third book, he basically outright says he's Jesus.

When Edmund and Lucy are told they won't be returning to Narnia, Edmund asks if Aslan is also in the human world.

“Are you there too, Sir?” Edmund asks. “I am,” said Aslan. “But there I have another name. You must learn to know me by that name. This was the very reason why you were brought to Narnia, that by knowing me here for a little, you may know me better there.”

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago

The whole book series is an allegory for the bible.

  • The Magician's Nephew is an allegory of Genesis
  • the Lion, Witch, and Wardrobe is an allegory of Christ
  • and the Last Battle is an allegory of Revelations
[–] BlueLagoon@lemmy.ca 173 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (21 children)

Its been a long while since I've read the books or seen the movies, but weren't they escaping WW2?

Seems kinda... worse than taxes and the subway. "Ah yes, lets give up on this magical world to return to ours to get *checks notes* bombed. Perfect."

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Been a while for me, too, but didn't they find their way back by accident?

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pretty sure they were also old as hell too, so they got to like regain their youth. Sort of a win if you don’t mind living, well, here. You know, rather than a magical world with talking animals and stuff.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (9 children)

As I recall, they were adults but not old. I think they were riding through the forest, got off their horses to follow some light in the denser trees or something, then fell out of the wardrobe and couldn't get back.

In hindsight, those horses definitely fled the country or got executed.

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[–] teft@piefed.social 36 points 2 days ago

Not only that but in the books they live there until they are adults and have forgotten about the real world. They rediscover the wardrobe while hunting. When they leave narnia the become kids again with all their memories intact.

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[–] qualia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A society either needs taxes or serfs in order to function. One of those systems is compatible with equality.

[–] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 0 points 16 hours ago

Tell that to Marx. True equality only happens when you move beyond both.

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] qualia@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

This has been fun, guys, but there's no Wi-Fi here, so we're gonna head back to hell.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They found the fountain of youth and you call them "fucking idiots". Go to Narnia, live a full life, leave Narnia with your adult mind in tact, walk out of the wardrobe a kid again, repeat.

[–] RedFrank24@piefed.social 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

So there's a few problems with that plan:

  1. If you leave Narnia, you will eventually forget Narnia. First it's like a dream, then a dream of a dream, and then you just completely forget ever having gone.

  2. The same applies in reverse. You will eventually forget Earth and spend your time in Narnia instead.

  3. You can't go to Narnia without Aslan taking you there. The Professor, who was infact one of the entities present at the creation of Narnia, tells the Pevensies that they won't be getting back to Narnia through the wardrobe again.

  4. Even if you could pass through to Narnia on command, there is a varying degree of time dilation between Narnia and Earth. The entirety of Narnia's 2,555 year existence is compressed into 50 years on Earth, but the first 1000 years of that existence was compressed into the first 40 years of the timeline, and the remaining 1,555 was in that final 10 years. Also, you can spend 10 minutes in Narnia and end up having been gone for weeks on Earth, so the time dilation goes both way and is pretty inconsistent then too.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

This guy Lion, Witch and Wardrobes.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Wasn't there also a world war going on in their real world?

(Btw do not check the poster's youtube channel I remember them being one of the alt-right pipeline figures. Notice the blue checkmark.)

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