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[–] kurmudgeon@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

The democratic party has absolutely no spine. They toss around a concept of standing up for the American people, then cower like scared children.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

DHS should be completely dismantled and the agencies it sucked in should be returned to their former status. When the fucking Patriot Act was approved, it would eventually lead to a unit identical to the SS and NKVD. It took 23 years and a bunch of fucked up voters to allow it. The fucking Russians and CCP Chinese are rubbing their hands together and laughing their balls off at the AmeriKan downfall.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

This is the democracy americans preach for lmaaao, fuck off

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

"Please leave Minneapolis"

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Call them and ask them if today's shooting would change their mind.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

The slaughter of everyday Americans has never been a weighty burden to the American government.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago
[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago
[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 23 points 1 day ago

They are traitors. Just about every single establishment democrat is enabling the Trump Regime to loot America on their behalf.

[–] brooke592@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You guys ever notice how it's always the democrats that break rank but never the republicans?

It's also always just enough democrats to make sure republicans always get what they want.

Why people keep voting for them is beyond me. They must be stupid or something.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

The Blue Dogs (the group that voted for ice funding) is the same group of dems that thwarted Bill Clinton.

It's all kayfabe, it's the squared circle. Whenever actual change is on the menu, like the public option with Obama care, exactly enough dems will turn to make it not happen, reliably.

How many is the super majority? Add 2 and that's how many dems will show up to stop progress.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You guys ever notice how it’s always the democrats that break rank but never the republicans?

Massie's been in full revolt for months now. And we've had perennial haters in the GOP going back to John McCain and Ron Paul. And the Tea Party Caucus was a big reason why the GOP couldn't pick a new House Speaker for nearly a month. These opponents tend to be Libertarian flavored, and tend to undermine Neocon efforts to spend money at the risk of raising taxes

The loathsome Blue Dog Caucus are an organized conservative opposition within the liberal party. It consistently sabotages party priorities while funneling enormous sums of corporate money into leadership races.

Both exist to benefit corporate interests.

[–] thesmoosh@discuss.online 2 points 7 hours ago

but they never face any consequences from party leadership.

it's moreso the case that when leadership decides they don't actually want to stop something (for reasons) the blue dogs are called upon to performatively break ranks and help the Republicans.

[–] ztpq@slrpnk.net 3 points 19 hours ago

If they really were in opposition to the actual goals of the party, they would not retain influential positions within it.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s because both parties are owned by the same Israeli lobby and the Zionist tech bro oligarchs. It’s not even a conspiracy it’s easily verifiable. Epstein and Gizzline worked for Israel to collect blackmail for Israel. We pay for Israeli’s to have universal healthcare, free college and a $400 monthly payment per child until they turn 18 but those things are evil and “communist” here. We the American taxpayers pay hundreds of billions for this stuff while Americans die and go into debt for sickness. Israel is a hostile foreign power do friends blackmail their allies? https://www.trackaipac.com/congress https://wonderisrael.com/monthly-stipend-for-a-jewish-kid/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 1 day ago

They must be stupid or something.

They are.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Who should we vote for otherwise? Every other option leads to Republicans staying in power, and they are the ones actually doing it.

Don't vote? That's fewer votes the Republicans need to win, so they stay in power.

Vote third party? That splits the opposition vote, and Republicans stay in power.

And no, neither of those choices "teach the Democrats a lesson." It just drives them to go to the people who do vote, who are more right wing, so it drives everything further right.

You want a more left wing party? Show them that the left votes and our votes have value.

[–] thesmoosh@discuss.online 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

they don't control the entire D party, there are good people there.

support the good ones, primary the bad ones.

In the last 10 years I've seen a noticeable shift in the number of normies (non political junkies) who have realized which Democrat are real and which are paid stooges.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

If we want to push things back to the left, we absolutely have to show support for more left candidates in the primaries.

But if we don't show them that we're willing to vote, we're just going to get candidates that chase the votes of the people who DO vote.

[–] brooke592@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stop voting for them in the primaries so we don't have this issue.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

The primaries are the key. Support the people who will oppose these issues.

But as we saw with Bernie, the support has to be undeniable and actionable, or they'll just put in who they want anyway. This means that there is a non-zero chance that we'll end up with the usual kind of choices. Should we then support the candidate that isn't at least actively disparaging the law, or should we not vote and increase the chance of the party that is actively destroying things winning?

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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I keep saying both sides are fascist, just that one side is better at hiding it. And I keep getting downvoted...

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Remember that these people have now aided and abetted the murders of Nicole Good, Alex Jeffey Pretti, and countless others not caught on video.

[–] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I love that this article makes funding ICE the fault of the Democrats, ignoring the fact that they are a minority. And the people in the comments here are eating it up.

Do I think the Democrats have the good of the American people in mind? No. Do I think this article has successfully manipulated people into mentally shifting the blame, if momentarily, to the wrong party? Fuckin’ oath!

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, it’s not to often (read: never) that the minority gets to bring a budget bill to the floor for a vote.

All they can do for this is vote against it. Jeffries not whipping against the resolution is fucking horrible, though. He needs to go.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Bullshit. The Republicans are the fascists in power. Being angry at them is the default, nothing to say. The Democrats can be either resisting or enabling. People have every fucking right to be mad at the enablers who should be resisting.

Your comment is the equivalent of saying "yea the crime in my city is caused by criminals and corrupt cops, but it's mostly the criminals, so look why are you eating up the propaganda that you should be mad at the police?".

As non-maga American voters you guys need to be holding your enabler Democrats to account. We, the rest of the world, know the Republicans are beyond your control. Your fucking Democrats though? That's on you.

Edit, here: https://youtu.be/1PwmiG7ABl0

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shorty has something on them.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Trump straight pardoned Henry Cueller, the ringleader. He was caught dead to rights taking bribes from foreign officials and has functionally flipped teams in exchange for clemency.

Incidentally, Jefferies reinstated Cueller as senior Dem on the Appropriations Committee. He'll be the chairman if Dems retake the House this year.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 185 points 2 days ago (10 children)

“They’re terrified of being labeled anti–law enforcement,” an unnamed source told the liberal magazine. “They want this to go away..."

Spoken like a true pussy, I mean democrat.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

But this not what ice is. They aren’t law enforcement. That’s the problem, too.

They are immigration and customs enforcement officers.

And… we should be whittling their budget

[–] hector@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

Why are they getting more money, they got 200 billion in the bill last summer.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Technically they are, or at least should be. Customs and border control laws are still laws.

However, what they're doing now is lawlessness.

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[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago

what a stupid country

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

It'd be great to primary every single democratic congressperson. I'm sure there are good ones. But it's time for wholesale change. Make them fear the electorate.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 87 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bunch of cowards. You can be pro-enforcement and also be pro-due process and human rights.

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] daguma118@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Can we please begin to vote for a third party? Mexico did it…. Why not us?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

It's called the DSA. Help them take over the husk of the Democratic party.

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

lol @ people hoping midterms fix things.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (20 children)
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[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Democrats are in the minority. They can't win this vote so minority leader Jeffries gave up on obstructing it and told house members to vote how they wish. Because how Democrats vote on this bill will not affect its ultimate passage.

This is a Republican bill by a congress controlled by the Republican Party.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yet somehow even when they're the minority, Republicans manage to obstruct the hell out of everything. Throwing up your hands and saying "oh well, can't stop it" is weak as fuck.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Why the fuck give up on obstruction?

Edit, here: https://youtu.be/1PwmiG7ABl0

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

If anyone had any doubt whatsoever that they don’t work for us…

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