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Once you’ve traded your principles for proximity to power, do you even run your own company?

Archived version: https://archive.is/20260109213037/https://www.theverge.com/policy/859902/apple-google-run-by-cowards

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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 months ago

Because billionaires.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 22 points 3 months ago

Why do you think? Rules are for poor people.

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 15 points 3 months ago

Billionaires have the tightest class solidarity

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago
[–] jasoman@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Cause they found funding fascism was easier.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] doleo@lemmy.one 9 points 3 months ago

I'm not going to use that website to check, but is nobody making Tim Apple deepfakes to goad him? Cant somebody just ask it to recreate that emo-Elon picture that he tried to ban?

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Could Elon buy them? Does he have that much wealth power?

EDIT: to be clear, it’s not that I want him to.‘it’s just frightening that it even sounds plausible enough to question in ignorance

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah. He can’t buy Apple (market cap $3.8T), or Google ($3.96T). He’s not a trillionaire yet.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

To put it into perspective, if he managed to sell all of his ownerships of companies for the most optimistic idea of his current net worth*, he could still buy less than 19% of Apple.

He’d need several friends to chip in to even get to 50%. A trillion is a lot until inflation gets out of hand.

* $717 billion; probably $100 billion too high at least.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Should they pull every web browser, too? They can clearly be used for nefarious purposes.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The difference between the two is that, while the browser can be used to access child porn, X actively generated the porn.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The browser can access X & any website. Isn't material produced from actual child sexual abuse worse than fictions generated without it?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The browser can access X & any website.

A browser doesn't activately generate it. X did.

Isn’t material produced from actual child sexual abuse worse than fictions generated without it?

They're both equally as bad because they result in the same things: production and advancement of child porn.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Actual child sexual abuse is equally as bad as fiction? Did you know there's a difference between truth & fiction? I doubt abuse victims would agree these are the same or equally as bad.

Pulling the X-only client while keeping the everything including X client doesn't seem to accomplish anything. Neither client is actively generating anything: it's server side. Your argument seems to be the client that accesses bad needs to be blocked, but the client that accesses bad & worse somehow does not.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Actual child sexual abuse is equally as bad as fiction? Did you know there’s a difference between truth & fiction? I doubt abuse victims would agree these are the same or equally as bad.

Both equally propegate child sex abuse, and I'm sure the kids these deep fakes are on might agree with me. In both topics, a kid is getting exploited for sexual material.

Neither client is actively generating anything: it’s server side

Oh, so the generating and/or distributing technology of the child porn is in the possession, custody, and control of X? Seems to make my point: X generated and/or distributed the child porn. On top of that, it made revenue off it from the ads that supported the active distributed of said child porn. Whose paying the electricity bill as an expense to profit on the child porn? X.

Your argument seems to be the client that accesses bad needs to be blocked, but the client that accesses bad & worse somehow does not.

My point, going back to my origional supposition, is that it is absurd to blame Mozilla (or the like) for the nefarious uses of all its users when they merely are a tool through which the web is accessed, and they don't make a profit directly from whatever material is accessed.