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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] Loce@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I see humans but no humanity...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Ice is terrorists

When this is over, and one day it will be over, all the worst in the US need their Neurenberg moment.

For the rest of the US, it should be rebuilt from scratch, Ina good way NOT for the rich anymore

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

It's maddening to see the predictable full-throated lying about how she was a terrorist coming from the administration and its enabling news networks, knowing that their intended audience will nod and say 'seems legit'

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Content warning: state terrorism

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tired of all this censoring of videos everywhere. If you can't see a woman's brains splattered over her car it's a little easier to forgive the ICE nazi who shot her, right?

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some get nauseated at the sight of blood, let alone brain matter. Obscuring the visual of a murdered person isn't a ploy to benefit the murderer. No one is watching this footage for the express purpose of seeing a dead body.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I get your point, but people should feel sickened and nauseated by this. They need to see and know it’s real. The consequences of fascism need to be driven home viscerally, into their very cores. They need to see the real, uncensored world they created and are living in. Censorship of atrocity is a criminal injustice that feeds fascism, authoritarianism, and its support.

Renee Nicole Good is not Thích Quảng Đức. She didn’t choose this. She didn’t want to die, to leave her children behind, to widow her spouse, to bereave her family. She was murdered by bloodthirsty Republican fascists. It is up to us, the living, to make her unwilling sacrifice matter. Her murder should be a nauseating core memory for everyone in North America and the world, and a reminder of the horrifying consequences of allowing fascism to foment or attain power.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I get your point, but I don't need to see an open skull cavity to know a person was murdered.

I saw a person aim a firearm and pull the trigger, and the person they were aiming at died as a result. It doesn't matter where the bullet wound is when the result is the same.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Has been here for a long time, just now they're being indiscriminate instead of just going after POC.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 24 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Literally everyone could see this coming during the election year. Don't know what's more depressing, that a majority of Americans wanted this, that some Americans somehow couldn't see this coming, or that some thought "yes, this is worth it to teach the Democrats a lesson about picking uninspiring candidates with a slightly weird laugh."

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago

That and the election results were manipulated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nus5JA3Vh4

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[–] HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

"Just relax"

No.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you die you can’t sue and the public doesn’t get to hear the victim. The family can sue, but it’s not the same. Seems to be pretty standard, even in CCW classes it’s often implied if not directly stated that if you shoot someone it’s better if they die so you don’t get sued by them.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's part of it, the other part is it's hard to tell when a person is no longer a threat to you in the heat of the moment. People have been shot before who aren't high on anything and still able to go for several minutes longer with life ending injuries.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What does any of that have to do with this situation?

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I was commenting on self defense usage in general. Though all the gung ho idiots seem to forget the first rule, avoid a situation where you'll need to fight/defend yourself. This is from someone who has been educated with self defense classes, reading, and examples.

Add information about what's also taught with self defense, get insulted and blocked for it. Fucking cool man...

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Are you rationalizing why he shot her or are you just trying to show off your morbid knowledge and impress us with your background? I already stated why death is a “preferable” outcome. What did your grisly contribution of “they can still live a while” add?

[–] texture@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this isnt normal. the world is concerned

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

best we can do is a mildly strong message on xitler, followed with an apology and self censuring 👍

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hereby award America honorary West Bank status.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I knew a long time ago they are not the first world country they claim to be but lately they show how low on the third list they are. No hope anymore.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 41 points 2 days ago

Jesus Christ

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's some Israel style bullshit! 🤬

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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Call the real police and have them arrested for attempted murder.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They can conscript local cops to their side pretty much at will. Because fascism.

Also, it's not like most cops wouldn't voluntarily side with them..

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I promise the local cops aren't having to be begged.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 6 points 2 days ago

Maybe, maybe not, but at least then it would be on the record. Both that it happened (and possibly that it was ignored).

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