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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 80 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I never thought I'd see a POTUS consider denaturalising US citizens as well so you'd hope they won't draft you but I wouldn't discount it. Cannon fodder is always necessary especially if you're not white or MAGA.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This scene was always hilarious because we thought it could never happen… But given everything that this administration has done so far, it seems more like a prediction…

https://youtu.be/AQnEBSwdAXw

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thought it could never happen? That sort of shit happened several times in past wars.

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[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I’ll kill half a dozen cops or MP’s or die trying if they try to forcibly deploy me before I do a single goddamn thing for Trumps Military.

If somehow I’m deployed against my wishes my first action is to make a white flag out of my underwear, surrender to whoever they deploy me against, and share as much intelligence as I have (probably 0 but who cares).

This isn’t some power fantasy by the way, I don’t want to hurt anyone.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a european, chances are if my country is being invaded, it's either by Russia og USA. If I'm gonna have to defend my country it will absolutely not be through the military. Conventional warfare against a greater foe is just a really good way of getting killed.

Either civil disobediance or terrorist attacks like the IRA is more my style.

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is why I don't think the strength of the US military holds up to its historical reputation today.

No one wants to fight stupid wars for someone else, but they are willing to defend themselves, their loved ones and their way of life. And we have the internet that allows us to know that yes, other people also live a similar life to me and have similar thoughts. Sure, they have all the prepper and tacticool guys dying at the chance to get on a chopper. But real life warfare, especially guerrilla, is not like in the (American) movies

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Could you at least replace my windows if you're going to hit that close to home?

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 days ago

The issue is that many of us are also concerned about the others who would or at least could be drafted. Our children. The younger adults we've taken under our wings and built friendships with. It's hardly any comfort knowing that I would never be drafted. Granted, I don't think there's a good chance of anybody getting drafted in my lifetime, but stupider shit has already happened, so there you go.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The motivation for most new recruits in the US military is escaping poverty. That poverty is on purpose to funnel recruits into the military. Unlikely to ever be a draft again, they'll just ramp up the poverty.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago

Also why leadershit is pissing their pants over declining fertility rates.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The motivation for most new recruits in the US military is escaping poverty.

Also the leading motivation for ICE recruits. That and the ability to be jerks.

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At least my death after I'm drafted in the wars over oil will raise the share price of the Military-Industrial Complex shareholders, bless them 🙏🙏🙏

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

RTX and General Dynamics thank you for your service. 🙏

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Remember that when a dictator runs out of qualified people, they'll draft anyone who has a pulse to keep things going.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We have assessed your current situation and are pleased to inform you we have created a project for people with skills like yourself.

Welcome to operation meat shield where we'll cash in those 30 years of contributions and pensions to keep the markets going I up and the boomers from having to face consequences.

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have a bone spur in my foot, can I also dodge a draft?

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How wealthy is your bone spur?

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[–] Simulation@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Are you also into children? Then sure!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wishful thinking, in the Serbian- Croatian war they were drafting 60 year olds. Russia has dropped any medical exemptions.

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[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 6 points 3 days ago

Still fit for duty, operation meat shield go!

[–] Critical_Drinking@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Cannonfodder /s

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

What if they need drone operators? Our fat 40 year old asses have been playing games since the late 80s, and those skills are finally in demand.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 41 points 4 days ago

And they'll use a bunch of teens straight out of high-school that still have youthful reaction times instead.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Sorry bro, they just going to import a bunch of Korean esport pros and make us all look like slobs.

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (16 children)

Americans are not unhealthy due to lack of affordable healthcare. They are unhealthy due to the availability of cheap, heavily processed, high calorie foods.

[–] cyberfae@piefed.social 29 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's multiple factors. There is the cheap, ultra processed foods, but also when a doctor tells you to lose weight, they're likely to tell you to go on a diet and exercise, but without giving advice on what types of diet and exercise are most helpful. Even if they do refer you to a nutritionist, insurance likely won't cover it. Add misinformation and a culture of blaming people for their bad health to that mix and you end up with a recipe for disaster.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Spoiler alert, any exercise is helpful.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

When Nazi Germany decided to declare war on the whole world, their leaders remarked that some of the fighters they were forced to use were "old meat" and "green vegetables". (So-called "casserole" units.)

It's one thing to think you're invincible and quite another to commit acts of state-sponsored terrorism and war in the belief that you're untouchable, but if there's anyone in the world who seems willing to find the breaking point, it appears to be Donald.

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[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Affordable Health care isn't why you are fat...

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Aren't you a peach.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Millennials spent our time terrified of a draft 10-20 years ago. Gen Z, welcome to the "anti war for my own self preservation" club, we [millennials] really did try to keep you out of it

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

NGL, I had to legitimately tell myself this the other day. I spent most of my formative years as a young adult worried that the neverending war in the middle east would escalate and I would be drafted. I was not alone in this fear either, most of my peers had plans to flee the country if Bush called for conscription.

It never did end up happening, probably because the war was deeply unpopular after it was clear that the invasion was just a pretense for regime change and not at all related to 9/11 or WMDs.

I think the mental trauma from that never healed, and now I'm pushing 40 and still thinking every new "war" we start will have the MPs knocking at my door to serve me my mustering papers.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Gun nut wannabe operators are like our primary domestic product. Decades of defense propaganda in TV, movies, and games has guaranteed no shortage of willing idiots with expendable bodies who have already foregone their humanity for the fantasy of headshotting the men and raping the women. America will rip apart at the seams before it ever sees another general draft.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

War is how the rich kill off the poor.

General strike is the only solution.

[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"Next thing you know you've got Uncle Sam's ass askin'
To join the army or what you'll do for their Navy
You just a baby
Gettin' recruited at eighteen
You're on a plane now
Eating their food and their baked beans
I'm 28
They gonna take you 'fore they take me"

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (16 children)

No one thinks there would be a draft. But 40 isn't a cut off, nor would weight excuse you. The U.S. military has enough members to fight in 10 Vietnams at once.

(Also war has changed, so maybe 100 Vietnams at once)

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

The U.S. military has enough members to fight in 10 Vietnams at once.

And loose 10 Vietnams at once.

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My spinal nerve damage. If I’m fighting. Things are fucked.

[–] astro@leminal.space 6 points 3 days ago

It may soon be time to bring back the American military tradition of "fragging"

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