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I don't care about Maduro, as far as I'm concerned, they can shoot him if they want. What matters to me is walking through the streets of my city and seeing the faces of fear on my neighbors. The military patrolling to prevent looting due to panic. It's a collective hangover, a horrible one.

It's 2016 all over again. It's seeing despair entering the circulatory system of all Venezuelans, only now it's more sudden, and we are painfully aware of it.

This is far from improving, and we know it.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Trump isn't the president you want doing regime change in your country. He's completely corrupt, and he's showing it in Venezuela - doesn't even mind leaving the old regime in place as long as he can get to your oil. Several orders of magnitude worse than Bush, and that's already pretty bad. I would expect him to try to work with the criminal syndicates in Venezuela and to try to come to an agreement with Russia and China for their influence in the region in exchange for giving them a blind eye to their own imperial goals elsewhere.

From the start he's been trying to side with the dictators of the world who want to divide it up under regions of control, and he has done everything to undermine diplomacy, soft power, and cooperation. The reason he does not prop up Machado is because he wants a despot, not democracy. It's no surprise, given he's one himself propped up by the richest people on Earth.

He sees himself as controlling all social networks on the planet and as such the narrative, controlling the supply to modern computing and as such all major industries everywhere, and controlling all the most advanced military weapons on the planet. His goal is to strong arm the entire planet while having more unstable and chaotic control over it all, a recipe for disaster on a global scale that will make the overabused concept of weapons of mass destruction end up seeming ironic.

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[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 320 points 4 days ago (25 children)

It's bullshit and I don't understand why our Congress is letting him do this. It's unjustified and illegal.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 263 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Because your congress is deepthroating that fucking child rapist. That's why.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago

Not just him, every billionaire gets their turn.

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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 127 points 4 days ago (7 children)

What about your military staff (Generals and the likes) Aren't they supposed to refuse illegal orders even from potus?

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 134 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Aren't they supposed to refuse illegal orders even from potus?

Yes. Yes they are supposed to.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 81 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All the ones that would, have been replaced.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 62 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

That's why I get pissed about stories of the variety "X resigns rather than follow administrations orders". People seem to cheer when that happens because they see it as people pushing back on illegal orders, but they're not. They're just bailing from responsibility when they were one of the few people in the position to legitimately be a stopgap on this runaway power abuse. In resigning, they've just made it easier for a loyalist or morally corrupt replacement to come in and roll out the red carpet to the autocracy. Stay right where the fuck you're at, plant your feet, and tell them that you're absolutely not following illegal orders from anyone. That is worth cheering.

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[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago
  • “Fascist to the core... the most dangerous person to this country.”Gen. Mark Milley, Trump’s Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Highest-ranking military officer). Status: Trump has suggested he should be executed for treason.
  • “He fits the general definition of fascist... he certainly prefers the dictator approach.”Gen. John Kelly, Trump’s White House Chief of Staff and retired Marine General. Status: Trump has attacked him as "dumb," "weak," and a "low life."
  • “Effort to subjugate American democracy by mob rule, was fomented by Mr. Trump.”Gen. James Mattis, Trump’s first Secretary of Defense and retired Marine General. Status: Trump labeled him the "world’s most overrated general."
  • “I do regard him as a threat to democracy... I think he’s unfit for office.”Mark Esper, Trump’s second Secretary of Defense. Status: Fired after refusing Trump's order to "just shoot" protesters in the legs.
  • “His sense of betrayal drove him to abandon his oath to ‘support and defend the Constitution,’ a president’s highest obligation.”Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, Trump’s second National Security Adviser. Status: Publicly attacked by Trump as "naive."
  • “Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States.”Mike Pence, Trump’s Vice President. Status: Trump has spent years attacking him for refusing to overturn the election.
  • “A consummate narcissist... our country can’t be a therapy session for a troubled man like this.”Bill Barr, Trump’s second Attorney General. Status: Trump has called him a "weak," "lazy," and "RINO" coward.
  • “I understand what you want to do, but you can’t do it that way. It violates the law.”Rex Tillerson, Trump’s first Secretary of State. Status: Fired; Trump called him "dumb as a rock" and "lazy."
  • “He has never cared about America... his conduct and mere existence have hastened the demise of democracy.”Ty Cobb, Trump’s White House Lawyer during the Russia investigation. Status: Dismissed by Trump as a "weak lawyer."
  • “He makes up what he wants to say... how little of American history he knows.”John Bolton, Trump’s third National Security Adviser. Status: Trump calls him a "wacko" and a "disgruntled boring fool."
  • “We don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator.”Gen. Mark Milley, during his farewell address as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

You still don't know? Republicans are all complicit in it so they refuse to use their control of Congress to do anything. Republicans don't care about the law they only care about them having power.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 67 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

all the propaganda out on reddit, defending him, "oh because hes a dictator he needs to be removed". plus Republican venuzuleans are celebrating it though/.

lets not forget its a distraction from the epstein files, plus Smiths testinomy recently too.

[–] TwitchingCheese@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Trump is a criminal, both domestically and internationally, with a fascist regime that had already attempted an overthrow of a lawful election. He's also deeply unpopular with a majority of the country.

So by their logic, if Xi swooped in and yanked him off a golf course back to Beijing to stand trial, that would be 100% fine.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

all the propaganda out on reddit, defending him, “oh because hes a dictator he needs to be removed”.

It ain't just on reddit. I've seen it right here on lemmy.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

Same here. Mainly from the same people who didn't like the idea of listening to the population on policies to win elections.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Right now there is going to be an enormous push to manufacture consent. Dont belive anything that claims good will as the reason. Its always related to greed, so if the reasoning can be traced back to that, thats the path to the truth.

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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 148 points 4 days ago (44 children)

I'm sorry. What we're doing is wrong. It shouldn't be happening.

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[–] fennesz12@feddit.dk 129 points 4 days ago (13 children)

I'm from Denmark, and I think it's just a matter of time before it's Greenland in the news.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Unfortunately, as an American, I think that is an accurate prediction.

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Sorry you're all scared. That's awful. I'm in the US wondering when we marginalized folks in the LGBT community are getting sent to concentration camps. People are scared here too. Sorry they are awful people. I assume protest will flare up in US this week. Already had one in my home town today from what I hear. Solidarity...

[–] krzschlss@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

During WW2 my grandparents lived a few villages away from a concentration camp. All those people in those villages and cities knew about it. They openly talked about it, like you do about wars and genocides your government perpetrates around the globe... but never did anything out of fear. After the war they all lied about not knowing what was happening in their neighborhood. Because they were afraid.

There is no worthy solidarity if you all are scared. Talk is cheap. The rest of the world has seen your complacency with the atrocities of both of your governments around the world for decades now. Trust me no one expects anything from US citizenry... just organize another Woodstock or some other dumb shit that does absolutely nothing to prevent anything and sleep well my little oppressed american communities.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 4 days ago

Stay safe OP, you and your family.

I hope this "special operation" results in blowback specifically for Trump himself.

All sovereign countries deserve independence and freedom from invasion.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago (16 children)
  • 2022 - Russia's special operation in Ukraine
  • 2026 - USA's special operation in Venezuela
  • 2030? - China's special operation in Taiwan?
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Won't be nearly that long.

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[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I'm seeing a hell of a lot of parallels to the Falkland Islands from when I was growing up.

It's all a distraction, and they don't care how many human lives they have to destroy. The astroturfing AI bots are, frankly, disgusting.

I'm really sorry that you're suffering, and I hope your beautiful country's recovery is swift and as uneventful as possible.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

The real parallel is between Leopoldo Galtieri and the Falkland islands. He used an invasion to distract from his human rights abuses and a worsening economic situation in Argentina. Of course the utter failure of his conquest led to his downfall and the restoration of democracy in Argentina. If only America could have a restoration of democracy.

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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

Yep the world doesn't feel safer. I am far from being informed enough to have a proper opinion on Maduro, and I have big doubts about the opposition as well. However I totally disagree with USA taking over anywhere. Hope you guys manage to find a few good leaders to see you through this mess.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Apparently, dancing to an electronic beat and appealing to peace gets an alpha strike from the United States.

The Yes Paz videos allegedly were the tipping point for invasion.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-team-moved-oust-maduro-191933963.html

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (14 children)

As an American, we may hate him more than you do right now. I'm sorry this is happening, the oligarchs just want Venezuela's largest crude oil reserve because greedy corporations (ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhilips, Halliburton, etc.) want more control over a dying planet. America has done this to Latin American countries 12 times in the last ~100 years, and went to war for 30+ years in the Middle East for oil too, so this is nothing new from an imperialism perspective.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 49 points 4 days ago (15 children)

As an American, we may hate him more than you do right now.

You hate him more than people literally fearing for their lives because of his actions? I am sorry, but I don’t believe you.

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[–] Solano@piefed.social 40 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Which military is patrolling? Asking bc information is not being shared correctly through mainstream channels. Does USA actually have control of the country?

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago

La Fuerza Armada Nacional Bolivariana, our Army.

If I had seen US soldiers, I would have crashed out.

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[–] drspectr@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (11 children)

The big problem with this is who is next? the US always had the power to do this but now that its actually doing it with bogus madeup reasoning... Is Canada next? Greenland? Mexico? Costa Rica?

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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm really sorry for you all over there. Even more sorry for I truely fear the rest of the world will only say "Mr. President, sir, was this really a good idea?" and then accept any responce he gives.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

I'm completely flabbergasted by our actions. Apologies aren't enough to begin to address what we did, but I'm so sorry that my government has chosen to terrorize you and the people around you.

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