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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Fucking WHY?! Just leave people the fuck alone!

USA has completed it's transition to Russia two nuclear boogaloo

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 121 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This sets an alarming precedent where a sitting us president can kidnap the acting head of another country (elected or not) which is an act of war, without the us being at war or having authorization from congress.

[–] lennee@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago

see the logic is only the US can, anybody else cant even arrest netanyahu when he flies over their airspace cuz for some reason that would also be an act of war towards the US

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You seem to not understand the term precedent. Neither is that a new thing to do for the US nor is it actually requiring congress authorisation. They gave up that power long ago and now don't need to autorise anything for up to 90 days.

Also the US has not declared war once since WW2... They actually set the precedent for "military operations" and -again- not recently either.

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Has the US not declared war in 2001?

[–] PoisonTheWell@reddthat.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Technically no. Congress passed the AUMF which let the President go after anyone they deemed complicit in 9/11. It did not declare war against specific nations iirc.

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

From my understanding, when you're lobbing missles to another country after another country does something horrendous to you. That's declaration of war.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, that was a declaration of war against the US.

So how can all of what you said, not be a declaration? It doesn't matter if Congress passed this or that. Shit happened, we went to war with Afghanistan, we sent soldiers and fired shit over to the Middle-East. Yet not a declaration?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"I didn't say it, I declared it!"

But seriously, declaration of war is a legal term specific to each country internal law system. War, as a legal term, hasn't actually been a thing either in international law since the 50s. It was changed to armed conflict. Which, before you think is stupid and why not call a spade a spade, is actually not that stupid. It created a well defined but much broader concept that (this is the important bit) is independent of a country's internal law standing or diplomatic declarations thereof. If a situation fulfills the criteria, then it is an armed conflict whether the countries involved like it or declared it. It gives tools to nation states and international organizations to do certain things on the international stage more freely in these situations even when the countries involved don't want them to.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's an act of war, not a declaration.

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[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's normally done by congress before they start shooting missiles. 

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 1 week ago

The point is, America has thrown out formalities. If we think we're justified to do shit, we're going to be firing missles. We did just that!

We're not that country anymore. Anyone can bring up WW2 and whatnot, well guess what? During WW2, America had dignity. We don't now, not for a while. We just shoot first, ask questions never. That's how it's been for a while.

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The last time the United States formally declared war, using specific terminology, on any nation was in 1942

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States

[–] te_abstract_art@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 1 week ago

It is Year 2 now of the fascist regime and the damage doesn't stop coming.

[–] YashaB@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

It's going to be worse than 2025..

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Americans did nothing and things got worse. Who could have foreseen this?

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Guys, it's fine. Remember? Trump has the FIFA peace price.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where's the problem? No winner of the FIFA peace price has started less and ended more wars than Trump. 😉

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[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I'm starting to thing the Fifa Peace Prize may not actually mean very much...

[–] beatnixxx@fedia.io 41 points 1 week ago

so you're telling me the "peace president" started another war? Unpossible. /s

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's gonna go to war in Venezuela to stop people from talking about him in the epstein files

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I like that line of thinking as much as the next guy, but it strikes me as wildly misguided that the US politics has reduced to that. Like, I get the symbolic aspects of the Epstein's files for politics, but still think it is mindless engagement.

An indisputably genuine video of Trump raping a literal toddler could be released tomorrow and nothing would change. Their support base and the gears of power are already too deeply entwined to his personality. No amount of public rage or national indignation changes governments.

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, he did it for money. USA is a agressor.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago
[–] butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Okay now do Putin. I'll wait....

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh no. Ukraine attacked his house and that crossed a serious line.

There are rules of decency in this world

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

“Attacked.”

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[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

They will kidnap Zelensky before Putin.

[–] YashaB@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Maduro is just as bad as Trump or Putin. Still it sets a very bad precedent when the US starts acting like Russia. Who will be next?

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What country did Maduro invade to be as bad as Putin or Trump?

[–] YashaB@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Invading a country isn't the only factor to determine how bad a dictator is.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -3 points 6 days ago

No, the main factor is how strong your state propaganda is against him.

Long live Maduro and the Bolivarian revolution, death to America

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter how bad Maduro is, this is wrong and illegal. Period.

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[–] Heikki2@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just follow the unexploited oil reserves

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[–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Looks like the USA managed to buy the local army or something. Well, it went unexpectedly smoothly. Maduro really didn't look like the elected president. Not sure if USA puppet would be better though...

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 18 points 1 week ago

Not sure if USA puppet would be better though...

Depends on how much money you have invested in American oil companies

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He wasn't elected, he just denied the results of the election

[–] Keilik@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

That’s usually the kind of thing that gets you on trumps good side though

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[–] fistac0rpse@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago

I read that the US was offering a $50 million bounty for anyone who provided info that led to his arrest

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

All eyes on Taiwan next…

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

ALL of these mother fuckers are going to be tried, convicted, and sentenced.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

should, but won't.

trump can rape a 13 girl on live TV, throw the resulting a baby in the lake in life TV, and not only would his base still support him. but he legally committed no crimes, because the US is a dictatorship and the every "official" act a US president does, is legal.

[–] halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Respectfully, I think you mean "should be". Nothing has happened to make me believe that any of these fuckers will be held accountable for their bullshit.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Nothing has happened to make me believe that any of these fuckers will be held accountable for their bullshit.

Because we had no option than Biden, one of the most popular Dem Senators of all time (among Republican senators....)

Dem politicians didnt like Biden, Dem voters didn't like Biden....

But the donors Hillary handed the DNC too really liked Biden, so he was the only other option we got.

A shit ton of people knew Biden would never do what was needed, and he didn't.

That doesn't mean the next Dem president won't, just that we need to understand that not everyone with a D next to their name is the same. We have to pick a good one, not just to win, but to actually fix shit so we can hold onto our gains.

We vote for an empty suit the donors want, that's all we're gonna get.

So no matter what happens between now and then, nothing is more important than voting in Dem primaries

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

That's cute. They won't.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago
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