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Economic concerns and growing disenchantment with both parties is draining support for Trump among Gen Z young men, a key bloc of support during the 2024 election

Male Gen Z voters are breaking with Donald Trump and the Republican party at large, recent polls show, less than a year after this same cohort defied convention and made a surprise shift right, helping Trump win the 2024 election.

Taken with wider polling suggesting Democrats will lead in the midterms, the findings on young men spell serious trouble for the Republican Party in 2026.

Younger Gen Z men, those born between 2002 and 2007, may be even more anti-Trump, according to October research from YouGov and the Young Men’s Research Project, a potential sign that their time living through the social upheavals of the Covid pandemic and not being political aware during the first Trump administration may be shaping their experience.

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

It's amazing to me to see how gen z acted after the neo-liberal boomers destroyed the economy and shit all over millenials. Millenials were blamed for everything. I'd have thought gen z would have gone hard left after seeing how their siblings and even in some cases parents were treated, but instead they were easily manipulated by russia and 4/8chan into stupidity. Instead we got gen z who was already fucked over by trump once to vote for him.

Every generation learns too late that old white men are not their friends and don't have their best interests at heart. Only with gen z it mattered more than ever in history and they blew it.

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

Not for any altruistic reasons, probably because no woman will touch them once they find out they're a mysogynistic rapist-supporting bigot...

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

So the women are beyond help!

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

No one recruits for the right like the people in these comments do.

Edit: if you are going to down vote me at least explain why telling them to fuck off is a better strategy then capitalizing on this and bringing them into the fold.

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 minutes ago

I don't understand this assertion.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 hours ago

Edit: if you are going to down vote me at least explain why

I downvote for spelling; but not for the missing hyphen.

No one recruits for the right like the people in these comments do.

And this is a bad generalization.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 36 points 11 hours ago

They can prove it by voting like it.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 40 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

It's just the nature of the population who will flock towards an authoritarian, they're not making rational, thought-out choices, they're JUST following a narrative of feelings. It could flip 180-degrees the next day and they will go with that new storyline if it validates their anger or frustration or just the need to follow a soap-opera of pundits and angry shouting people on TV.

[–] solduc@slrpnk.net 45 points 15 hours ago (13 children)

Gen Z want a radical. Far left or far right doesn't seem to matter. I can't blame them for that. Most of them will still say they supported Bernie - at least the podcasters they worship do. There is room for them on the left. Dems have to start by leaving the centrist DNC bullshit behind.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 15 points 11 hours ago

I think most people want a radical.

The current system isn't working for the majority of normal people.

They'll vote for change every time, and never get it.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (6 children)

they don't want radical. they want jobs and a stabilized cost of living. they want to feel like they have a future.

trump focused on economic issues, and got their votes. if the next democrats can push forward economic reforms that improve the economy... they will get the votes. Kamala absolutely refused to run on any agenda of economic reform and endorse Biden's inflation economy.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Fair days wage for a fair days work IS radical in a world where 8 people hold 50% of the world's wealth

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This was always true. I want someone who works for the working man and woman. I don't care if we become socialist, stay in capitalism, what the fuck ever other choice: we as people need to feel taken care of. Any system that ignores its people is doomed.

Just as important is explaining to people why some choices need to be made that we may not agree with. Raising the gas tax? I'm ok with it, because I already know it's how we pay for our roads. But what about my less aware neighbor? If they simply see the rate jump, and don't know why, it leaves the door wide open for a conspiracy schmuck to step in with a ragebait explanation.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but you're being reasonable. Most human beings aren't reasonable. They are not thoughtful or pragmatic. Only a small percentage of people are well-mannered and educated enough to even understand the basics of macroeconomics and public policy that often drives it.

They are driven by raw emotion that is often entirely disproportionate to the thing it's responding to. Like your example of someone flying into a rage over a minor tax increase. And now in 2025+, these people think they are all geniuses due to a steady diet of social media that constantly reinforces their ignorant and rage. And they block and assault anyone who dares try to dispute their rage and ignorance.

I was in thread about credit ratings yesterday and all the smart factually accurate commentary was down-voted, and all the ragebaiting ignorance conspiracy nonsense was heavily upvoted.

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[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 160 points 20 hours ago (24 children)

My sister (F 22) voted for Trump over taxes, Haitian and Venezuelan immigrants. She is 1st gen, born of 2 immigrants who also voted for Trump. Every time I present new evidence of how bad Trump is, she pulls ChatGPT and "debunks my lies" with nicely crafted confirmation bias prompts. If you all know how to get through to GenZers, I am listening.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 192 points 20 hours ago (11 children)

Any 22 year old who’s upset about taxes is very very clearly being manipulated

[–] DNS@discuss.online 34 points 17 hours ago

Everyone should be upset how this country has lies to its citizens for decades on the premise of it can't "afford" free healthcare and education. It is not a generational problem, but a societal one.

Yet half this country joyfully would wallow in their own shit if it means their neighbor suffers just the same as they are.

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[–] sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org 29 points 16 hours ago

my dude, you have a sister who is going to chatgpt for facts, Id feel that she's in a lot more trouble than being a trump supporter.

[–] eli@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

You can't help morons unfortunately.

My father is Gen 1 of immigrant parents. His parents HATED Trump. Yet he voted for Trump all three times.

I have a GenZ sister-in-law that uses ChatGPT for relationship advice. Like copies and pastes responses from men into ChatGPT and asks what they're "really saying" or "what their intentions are", instead of you know, JUST ASKING THE PERSON OUTRIGHT.

We're fucked

[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 36 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

have the AI cite it sources for the claims it makes, and read through those sources. ask the AI what information it used in the source to come up with its statement.

using chatGPT in this way is like how I used Wikipedia growing up: just pull up an article on something, check out what citations an article had, and walk it backwards from there

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Have you considered debunking her with nicely crafted confirmation bias prompts. It could also show her that chatGPT can be wrong?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

2020: you have your facts and I have my facts

2025: you have your prompts and I have my prompts

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 45 points 20 hours ago

Ask her to read the links from her ChatGPT queries with you. Do it together. Show her how ChatGPT is confidently and convincingly lying to her. And each time she comes back with another result from a biased prompt, do it again. Eventually she'll at least stop trying to convince you that ChatGPT knows all, out of embarrassment.

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 92 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Who cares.

They will change their minds again.

Vote.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

voting got us here. now what. The next election may as well be fascist vs probably not a fascist

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 2 hours ago

I think you'll find that a large segment of the population did not in fact vote.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Anti-Trump doesn't mean pro-democrat.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Good, we hate the establishment Dems too. Last thing we need is people flocking to the dems before the midterms, we need to empty that jug out and fill it with new people.

[–] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Lol until they find the next bandwagon to hop on that happens to hurt and kill other people.

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