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Uline has a reputation for having a high turn-over rate. The root cause of this problem is Dick and Liz Uihlein are nutjobs and the work environment is like stepping into a time machine. However they don't see it that way, instead they want to force people to be stuck with a bad job because health insurance is tied to the workplace. Also just to give you an idea of how out of touch she is, she blamed the COVID-19 stimulus checks in 2025. It's been so long ago since anyone received them.

In every Uline catalog Liz puts her dumb opinions in it. They also donated over $100 million to Republicans and Trump in 2024. That's why I urge everyone to Refuse Uline and pick a better alternative if you use them. This website: https://refuseuline.com/ has a long list of alternatives to Uline.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

We should apply to their open roles. Help out their numbers.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

People should really start just applying and working at places and just outright sucking at their job.

Don't boycott Amazon. Work in their warehouse and then the moment you clock in, go on a smoke break.

Hate Comcast? Apply to their customer service. Hang up every other call. Make fart noises.

Furious at Nestle? Become a manager. Steal food from the kitchen. Hoard office supplies. Fuck them.

Take their money AND give them the finger. Win win.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks to three rounds of stimulus checks, people didn't get off their couches to work.

For a single person that stimulus added up to a big fat $3200 max, and it ended almost five years ago, in early 2021. Married people and people with dependents got more, depending on their financial situation.

Anyone that relied on that cash alone to "stay on their couch" as Liz "Let Them Eat Cake" Uihlein asserts is either dead or homeless now, because the last time a single person could live even at subsistence level for five years on $3200k max in an urban world was a long, LONG time ago.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Because they're projecting. Uline got $700k in covid-related government financing so she's assuming everyone else stole as much as her

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 13 hours ago

For a company with 11 billion in revenue that 700k is pretty small potatoes. I say that as someone who among other things manages a database that has a similar amount as the annual license fee at a company of a similar size to Uline. Its an amount large enough that it is considered in any strategic planning and is a major line item every budget season, but it's also an amount that the company continues to pay every year

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

People really been riding that whole month's worth of rent.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Right it was the stimulus checks that kept people from working, not the lockdown from the pandemic. Jackass.

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago

It's even worse. That letter she wrote was published in 2025 so it's been it's been four years since the last one in 2021.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

What a cunt.

[–] Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“…but boy, how times have changed.”

Have they ever Liz. My father got a good paying job and was able to support us with decent wages and benefits with only a high school diploma. His employer respected him and the hard work he did, and by that I mean that he was respected as an employee, had a decent work schedule, and they didn’t pile extra work on him that wasn’t his job just because they could. Also, “if you don’t like it, go find another job” wasn’t his company’s mantra. As a result he worked for them loyally for over 40 years, even putting in extra hours when he needed without complaining or expecting extra compensation, just because, y’know, he enjoyed working there and was made to feel like an important part of the company instead of a disposable cog that’s always looking over his shoulder afraid that his position would get cut or he would be let go on a whim. Oh, did I mention that, after he retired, his replacement (that he trained) didn’t work out? So two months after retiring he went back to work for six more months to do the job while helping find another replacement and train them. Dang, the things you’ll do for a company that respects you and treats you right.

Yeah Liz, how times have changed, huh?

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 4 points 14 hours ago

I've found a company where the leadership genuinly respect their employees, and trust them enough that if someone needs a day off to go to the doctor, or needs to work from home because their car is in the shop, there's simply no question about it. If someone is sick, then they're sick until they're no longer sick and show up to work again.

This means I am more than happy to help my boss with an urgent issue until 5 pm on a friday if it's needed, because I know he values it, and I know I'm not getting any complaints if I have to leave at 12 pm the next friday to go to the dentist.

If leaders cared about their workers, their workers would care about their jobs and actually do more than the bare minimum, because if you give some, you get some.

[–] ITeeTechMonkey@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago

She said the quiet part out loud with regards to universal healthcare - it makes it too easier for us plebs to change jobs.

Tying healthcare to a job takes away leverage and negotiating power from the employee.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Most workplaces a pyramid with increasingly small steps up. EG a business has 10,000 peon slots and 200 peon manager slots which don't pay much more than peon per hour but involve lots more hours. The 20 on the next step up are largely for people closer to the social and educational class of the CEO and most specialized jobs are either outsourced or for people on an entirely different career path from the peons.

EG The company IT is run by someone else OR it involves getting an entirely different degree and being a peon at the company wouldn't meaningfully privilege one in getting such a job and indeed takes most of the time one would need to devote to get said degree.

The number say that virtually all of the peons are doomed to stay peons and that even for the minority that do move up its a very short climb that doesn't go very far. EG there is absolutely no "working your way up" and no reason for anyone who now works for you to believe in such a path.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That first paragraph, man. Did she pen this nonsense for the purpose of raising my blood pressure? You think people love looking for new jobs? You did this asshole. You and your class.

And she's a nepobaby on top of it.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

She (and her husband) both inherited from executive parents. It’s pretty easy to critique a system she never knew, a system where she likely never looked for a job her entire life. She’s in the top 250 of the Forbes 400.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 18 points 22 hours ago

Yep, both of them are nepo babies who've never had to do an honest day of work in their lives.

Started their company with a loan from daddy, who started his company with money from his daddy, who was an exec at the family business Schlitz beer.

[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People don't job hop if they trust their employer to take care of them, you all fucking blew that big time Liz, so that's on you.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

They will still job hop if take care of them means pay them 10-25% less than if they agree to change jobs. Note executives do this. Nobody would expect bob the ceo to work for 10M when someone else is offering 12M

[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Well she seems rather cunty.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

monkey cymbals

Oh, you think that was an "uNinTeNDeD cONsEquENcE"? Big thoughts.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd love to see the HR team at Uline, must be some real data analysis specialists with these tired-as-fuck tropes.

Much, much more damaging to companies than employees looking for better work are managers who are unable or unwilling to see who their actions and behaviors contribute to issues.

  1. Did you try paying above minimum wage or even "50th percentile" of market for jobs where you have high turnover?

  2. Do you ensure your employees have adequate holidays and Time Off? And by that I mean they don't actually have to work on their personal time or jump through hoops to take time off work? You're an employer, not an overseer, staff your company so that you don't have to exhaust the employees you do have who do want to be there.

  3. Do you train and onboard people at all? When was the last time they did a deep dive into the new hire experience? The answers are there for the taking from people who are largely unbiased and ready to tell you what is needed for them to be successful. On aggregate, all that takes are a few fucks given to find the issues and address them.

  4. Leadership who start by blaming the least powerful group in explanations always set a good course for company culture.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The first 5-10 years a person works usually results in massive amount of growth in skills and productivity. If a company won't adequately compensate for their ever increasing value, another one will.

Annual pay raises were never more than 3% when I stayed with a company - usually 1-2%. When I swapped jobs I had a few 30% pay raises.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I got my first grown-up job in 2012, and I was making $15 an hour as a computer desk jockey.

Three years later, due to some cock ups, I was only making $16.50, so I quit and got another job. The next job hired me at $20 an hour.

Three years later, I had moved up, I was doing well, but it was time for me to move. So I moved across country, and I got my next job, and I went from $28 an hour to $35 an hour.

Three years later, it was time to move and I moved to my next job and was making $60 an hour.

I have a friend who stayed with the same job where I was making $16.50 an hour 11 years ago.

He's still there and he makes $26 an hour.

That goes to show you how much they reward you staying.

I jumped ship for a decade and make nearly 3x what the faithful do.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

$16.50 adjusted for 11 years of inflation is $22.36.

So in real terms they have rewarded your friend with a 1.5% annual pay increase for 11 years of loyalty.

By swapping jobs your pay has increased by around 9.4% per year during the sametime.

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

So they are mad that workers have choices. Makes sense if you’re a ghoul.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

If you have to rely on other employers blacklisting people who don't show "loyalty" or people losing health care coverage to keep people working for you then you are doing something very very wrong.

Thanks for the refuseuline.com link. I hope I can use it to swap from uline sourced products at work.

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Yet another item on the menu getting loud before being eaten...

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Where's Staplerfahrer Klaus when you need him?