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Coming home too damn tired to do anything else, even including chores, is top for me.

I have dishes lying around, laundry needing to be done at somepoint, some extra small tasks to do. But, trying to go 'above and beyond' for a shitty job just leaves you with nothing left to do them, having to waste time off to finally do them.

I'm in a building that's not my home, for 8 hours (used to have some days where it was 10 hours), a night. Where my company tries to tell me to treat their building that I work in, as a second home. Dealing with all of these tasks that ultimately mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Dealing with people who conveniently forget a lot of the time, as to how to be a normal human being and they being at your expense.

And in addition to coming home too damn tired to do anything else, I'm sometimes worrying if what I'm making now for however many hours, is enough to cover everything I need to have or want to have.

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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 minutes ago
  1. the dreadful commute
  2. the corporate policies that are profoundly arbitrary
  3. the business processes that add needless amounts of overhead, all to justify people's jobs
  4. the needless meetings and back and forth for things that should be solvable in five minutes
  5. spineless leadership
  6. entitled clients

5/6 go hand in hand. For my current project, because we have leadership unwilling to push back on the client, the client feels entitled to demand things above the contract terms. This of course trickles down to everyone else to accommodate.

Overall my work is fine but these things stick out. I am incredibly indifferent to the success of any given project. My investment beyond my daily contributions is low to nonexistent. At the end of the day, if they're going to pay me to be inefficient what do I really care.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 points 37 minutes ago

Companies that tell you to treat the building as your "second home", but then frown when you want to bring your laundry to work, do yoga or workouts at your desk, or bring your kids or Grandma into the office so you can keep a eye on them.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I am very commute sensitive, won't take a job too far away.

Other than that, I hate, hate, hate the unequal compensation the most. Too much money to the people at the top, and raises by % just make it worse.

[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

I've had countless shitty jobs and shitty bosses. Now I'm in charge of a team and, as a product of who I am and my own lived experiences, I treat them fairly and with a degree of kindness and sympathy that I've never really had from my former bosses.

I overlook a lot of the petty paperwork and have various on-going deals with staff whereby I'm extremely flexible and they reciprocate by often going the extra mile for me. Our team mostly runs well and my own manager is pleased.

However, I occasionally feel unappreciated by 1 or 2 staff who have been there so long that they've forgotten how things could be if I was inflexible, stuck strictly to the rules and came down on them a lot harder - which an other boss could easily do.

I suspect that some mistake my kindness for weakness, even though I've always spoken with authority and plainly, albeit in private to those that have needed it.

Truth is we're local gov, the perks are good, as is the job security, but there's an element of complacency and an awareness that you have to do a lot wrong to get fired - and it's a long process.

So yeah, I mostly don't mind my job, but I resent staff who haven't had it as bad as I have in the past and don't seem to understand that their decent conditions are because of who I am, and are not really the norm in other departments.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The coercion and the exploitation without proportionate compensation

[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

The notion that 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, we are productive.

I do real work for a few hours each day and I still get told I work too much or am "the fastest" on the computer.

[–] frankenswine@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

depending on it for survival

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 6 hours ago

Daily commute. Fuck cars and fuck city planning around cars. I stay in a box for 1 hour so I can work in a box, so I can stay in a box for another hour until I can finally get back to my box

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Productivity goes up, all tools are used to achieve it, but pay and hours stay the same.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

People who have neither worked direct patient care in over two decades nor ever worked in my specialty—trying to tell me what's best for my patients. I work night shift so that my interactions with such people are minimal, but they do still happen occasionally.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I don't hate the hours, but I hate the constant process of it all. That we are expected to be at the computer about 8 hours every day, even if it's clear that our efficiency has dwindled.

And I'm in a lucky enough situation, that I wouldn't even really have to do this. I could easily take a few days off sometimes, but I just ... won't until it's actual vacation time. So after the vacation ends, I end up working efficiently for a month, so-and-so for 3 months, then absolutely shitty for a month and then it's vacation again. Because I choose to.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago

It would be easier to list what I like about it: nothing.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I honestly hate work itself, I'm not doing what I want if I'm working. There is no job I want.

[–] boomlandjenkins@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

What is your hobby? I turned my hobby (web design) into a business in 2004 while in college because I had the same mentality you posted.

[–] Bhaelfur@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I tell this to people and they simply do not understand. "What if you found something you like doing, then it's not really work!" It's still working. I will not enjoy it. I would rather have the freedom to choose what I'm doing at any particular time. People just cannot grasp that idea. But I also may not be explaining myself well, such is life.

[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are brainwashed to believe that their value is tied to their productivity

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends what value. It is good to be contributing to society. But you can still be contributing and not working 996

[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True, but most people confuse contributing to society with contributing to billionaire pocket linings

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

When management/HR treats the employees like children in kindergarten with condescening words and tone of voice, playing stupid games to force getting to know co-workers, and generally having an "I am better than all of you" attitude.

Being forced to stand on jobs where you're just doing a repetitive task that doesn't require moving around. Guarding a single door, cashier in a shop, QA inspector on a assembly line, etc. No god damn reason these should require being on your feet 8-12+ hours.

Physical labor in general. Shit hurts.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 15 points 20 hours ago

Many times the people who would make the best decisions are not authorized to make decisions.

Should we go into the office every day? Well the workers say no, objective productivity measurements say no, the environment says no, but some insipid sack of shit feels like it's better.

Should we spend twenty minutes improving this process? No, some higher up who doesn't understand software development decided that we don't do it that way. Keep doing it manually.

Should we compensate people well enough so they don't leave after a year or two? No, pay the absolute minimum and keep hiring entry level people. Saving so much on labor costs!

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 13 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

That we are contributing to a dehumanizing system with no purpose other than propping up inequality and injustice and constantly generating more power for psychopaths to misuse to spread war and terror and destroy the planet and every living thing on it.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Yikes! I wouldn’t want to work at your company!

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

oK sOcIaLiSt

[–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really struggle with work that doesn't feel meaningful. It'd be nice to feel like I was contributing something meaningful to my community. My favorite jobs were working for school districts. Not teaching, but just being a part of that overall system felt so satisfying.

[–] Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

Same, worked for a nonprofit for 7 of my 12 adult years that rented space to 2 schools (small high school and a daycare/preschool) within their buildings and we had our own services after session. Wasn't directly involved with the teaching for the schools but did maintain all the computers for students and teachers while having a small program training a couple of the teens to manage a repair shop fixing those computers. That provided more satisfaction than any other job since, even though I will still hate Roblox with a passion on how much like a virus it acts to whatever it gets installed to, I'd do it again if the opportunity was open, but it was a unique deal between the three.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The well paying jobs that don't have massive amounts of overtime are 8-5.

I am not a morning person. Ever since starting an office job where I have to get up at 6 a.m. to get the kiddo to school so I can make it to work by 8:00 has been a continuously escalating level of exhaustion because it doesn't matter how much sleep I get, it is when.

It is less bad during the summer on the days I get to work from home as I can at least sleep till 7:30 or so. If I could just work 10-6 with no lunch I would never be tired again, but too many people in leadership positions see rising early as a virtue because that is what they were always told or they happen to be morning people.

No, don't tell me I have a sleeping disorder or I just need to work on going to bed early unless you tell people who wake up early that they should just sleep in. Different people have different sleep schedules and it only looks like a disorder because of social expectations.

[–] alternategait@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I fully agree with you and I am a morning person. I don’t understand why in an increasingly distributed world why you can’t just have bands of start times. It’s better for productivity, better for distributed relations, heck probably even better for traffic congestion.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 9 points 20 hours ago

They want everyone in the office for the same hours so we can collaborate. But we don't need to collaborate for 8 hours a day and it is perfectly fine for people to come in at 7 and leave by 3:30, and hour and a half early, because of the stupid early to rise bullshit. But fuck me for asking if I could do the opposite when my kiddo is done with school and come in at 9:30 to 6 (half hour lunch required) because that would be too late in the morning.

It is all stupid.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 14 points 23 hours ago

I could be a professional gamer, but doing it for 40 hours a week every week, would get tiring.

It's the monotony that kills me in ANYTHING I do. I don't know if it's the ADHD in me or what, but I love variety. My job is painfully easy, but my god, it is such a drain to do the same thing day in and day out.

[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just hate the shitty adults and their pointless gossip. Who does it help if you shit on someone’s haircut? No one, Michael. You ass.

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[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How to get a promotion you're supposed to first go out of your way to do extra work they should hire for for no additional pay. I tried it at 2 jobs, both times I ended up doing the extra work for no pay for years before I left.

Meanwhile, every year, the yearly raise is less than inflation.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 2 hours ago

That strategy is valid but doesn’t work for most, because it assumes (1) a relatively high comfort level with selling your own skills, and (2) enough knowledge of local talent / labor market to realize what you can ask for. That’s a skill set you’d expect from an experienced consultant, not the average W2 employee, and if you swing and miss, or fail to swing at all, many struggle to pump the brakes and end up shouldering the additional responsibility without additional compensation.

Hence the common rule of beginning the hunt for your next job right away if you desire growth. Your manager probably won’t just promote you, so you have to promote yourself.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Sounds like it's time to go "below & within" for your employer

[–] thenose@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have less days off than a peasant from feudal times…

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Don't worry protoserf, feudal times are making a comeback.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I remember an electrician lecturing me about how a desk job is not real work. I have nothing but respect for blue collar jobs. But fuck that particular guy. If he knew how intensely boring, complicated, and time sensitive some knowledge work is, he'd STFU. I never hired him again, found a much better electrician.

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

I see you've met my father.

(He's not an electrician, just blue collar with that opinion)

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 6 points 20 hours ago

I was a welder who was promoted up to quality manager, and I can tell you that while my current role is nowhere near as physically demanding, it is absolutely harder.

Perhaps it's my ADHD, perhaps it's because I've never really been trained for office work, but the thing I struggle with most is prioritising tasks, making sure I'm doing enough of all the things required of me. I never had to do that before. My foreman would assign me tasks, I'd do the tasks. Easy. Also, my current role intersects heavily with health and safety legislation, so I've had to study for (and pass) a NEBOSH qualification. I never failed a welding test, but I had to resit the NEBOSH.

[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

I do desk work for a company that mostly does manufacturing, and I've had a few of the workshop guys come into the office, take one look at my screen, and tell me they'd never be able to do my job. I usually tell them I probably couldn't do their job either so we're even

Who does he think designs all the shit that he works on?

[–] Today@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I love what i do and the kids and people that i work with. Administration is incompetent and has become more and more micromanaging because they don't understand that they're the problem. I've been out since October, going back in Feb, will probably quit in may at the end of the school year and do something different.

[–] wakko@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

None of the things you mention has anything to do with the job itself. How you show up and when is what matters.

There's a lot of mythology around work that is just no longer true and hasn't been true since the 1990s, if not the 1980s.

The only time your boss cares about you going "above and beyond" is in situations where it will make them look good to their boss. Don't waste your energy going above and beyond just randomly. It won't get noticed and it'll only burn you out.

Providing quality customer service is never wasted effort, but it doesn't mean putting up with entitled customers. If people aren't interacting with you at least calmly, don't waste the energy engaging. Don't engage with adults having tantrums.

Most importantly - don't dilute your wage. If you're hourly, be meticulous about clock-in and clock-out times. Don't do work unless you're on the clock. If you're salary, that means you give what you have; it doesn't mean you kill yourself for the job. If I'm sick, my salary pays for the ~30% effort that I've got to give. Trying to give 100% when you don't have it is a great way to burn yourself out and gain nothing in return. If you're good at something other people value, never ever do it for free. All people will do is take advantage.

Most household chores that actually need to be done boil down to a handful of things that need daily attention and can be done in 15 minutes or less, the weekly crap that takes 30 minutes or less once a week, and then monthly and quarterly maintenance cycles. If you're spending more than ~30 min. a day, plus ~1 hour on the weekends doing choring, you're probably wasting your energy on things that don't truly matter. You can scale back and not worry so much about keeping your space ready for a Martha Stewart catalog. Focus on what's truly essential and let the rest slide.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So it takes about 30 minutes just to clean the bathroom. For me, that's dusting top to bottom so the cobwebs and dust don't build up and baseboards and light fixtures only need to be better cleaned a few times a year; cleaning the sink and cabinets, toilet inside and out, tub inside and out, shower walls, soap dishes/dispensers, tp holder, vacuuming and mopping. My bathroom isn't that big either. Then there's the bedroom, laundry room, hallways, living room and kitchen. That's not counting laundry or cleaning the kitchen after meals. Can you please share how you do everything in 30 minutes a week?

[–] wakko@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

That's the trick - I don't do everything. It just isn't physically possible. So, I don't kill myself trying.

For a full bathroom (sink, toilet, tub and shower), I prioritize the stuff that matters most - toilet and sink. Cleaning those takes me 10 minutes, tops. Those are what stays clean on a day to day basis. Everything else gets dealt with weekly (sweeping, trash), monthly (tub, shower) or less frequently.

The lie Americans have told themselves is that it is possible for a family of 2-4 to perform a ridiculous number of tasks to live in 4-star hotel conditions their entire adult lives. It's a fantasy that has people killing themselves to dust corners of their homes that literally nobody sees or cares about.

You've got better things to do with your time than dusting. Like resting from your day job.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 22 hours ago

I don't hate work itself. I hate companies and the system that forces me to work a job I don't give a fuck about.

I don't have the resources nor opportunities to just work on something I love until it can maybe make some money. Unfortunately, that's reserved to the wealthy or the lucky. I've been working in private on many things that don't earn money. Maybe what I'm working on is shit. Maybe what I'm working on doesn't matter. Maybe it never can be profitable. But I can't throw everything away and just dedicate hundreds or thousands of hours to it like some lucky few can.

This is why UBI will always have my support. It's my firm belief that anti-UBI people are actually afraid of the competition is would cause. Imagine if instead of 100 people having the time and resources to compete with you, there'd be thousands, maybe even millions. Imagine suddenly thousands of people actually digging into politics and deciding they want to give it a shot. Imagine thousands deciding they wanted to do their hobby fulltime and give it a shot at becoming something. Woodworking, climbing, athletics, journalism, gaming, content creation, mechanics...
There'd be a flurry of activity.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

It's the feeling that ultimately what I do is meaningless.

Thing is, I work in quality management and health and safety. From a manufacturing perspective what I do is about as meaningful as it gets. I'm one of the people who makes sure that no one gets hurt! Trouble is, most people in the company seem to have offloaded their responsibility to our office, regardless of how often we tell them that isn't true.

It should be trivial to roll out a new measure that will ensure a reduction in incidents and accidents, but that measure is only useful while the folks on the shop floor actually pay attention. And they don't. Not until someone gets hurt, at which point we get asked why we aren't doing more to ensure things like that don't happen.

It's demoralising

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 5 points 22 hours ago

I love the work I do helping children with o learn and grow, but I hate the shift length.

Oh and the lack of planning time, I need more than 2 hours a week to meaningfully analyse and implement curriculum.

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

In the winter especially, you go to work in the dark. Spend all day indoors with no windows while the sun is out. And then drive home in the dark to a dark house.

You get so depressed and lose motivation. And what did you gain? Less money than last year.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

•When you have your way that works for you to accomplish something that somebody else does differently, and they insist on you doing things their way even though the end result would be the same regardless of which way you did it.

There are definitely times when there is a legit right way to do something vs a wrong way, but there are also definitely times when people insist on just adding unnecessary time and work to what you're already doing for absolutely no reason.

Like, if you're doing something kind of hectic, and you have tools or equipment you temporarily placed a certain way for a good reason, but it bothers somebody else to see them placed that way, and they insist on you adding additional steps to your own task instead of just leaving shit alone and letting you finish what you're already doing. If it's related to a safety or contamination issue, I get it, but if not, it seems pretty unnecessary. This is especially infuriating when the situation is reversed and the same people break their own unnecessary rules (like it's somehow different because it's them having to deal with something stressful and hectic?).

•When people act petty for absolutely no reason. Sometimes I intentionally set stuff out so I can have it all ready to use the next day. I try to avoid doing this if there is a good chance somebody else might actually need it, but, it saves me time and trips back and forth between PPE and non PPE areas when I can just grab everything and don't have to go back and grab something I forgot. There have been a few times where I'll have everything laid out and ready to use (on my own work area), and I'll come in ready to just grab what I need and get started, only to find every item I had ready to go has been moved. What are the chances I neatly laid multiple items out on my own desk or work space before leaving, simply because I just forgot them or wasn't bothering to clean up after myself?

•Having to sit in one uncomfortable spot, surrounded by other people and distractions to work on something that can 100% done on a laptop at home (or anywhere else).

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