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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

No. It's not a replacement.unless they make itess waxy.

[–] MohamedMoney@feddit.org 102 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Everything but solving climate change

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The problem with realistic climate change solutions is, that they often involve things like "consume less" and "degrowth", to which very rich and powerful people seem to be allergic.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Which is also why they pushed recycling so much. Doesn't stop your consumption.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In fairness, the machine can not stop or go in reverse. It'll tear itself apart violently

It also can't go forward much further before it runs out of gas, so... We could prepare for that, but I think we're just going to cover up the fuel gauge and hope for the best

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It could slow down. But people think we can have infinite growth in a finite system.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago

It can't slow down, or you get increasingly large bubbles

Like the AI bubble. The US economy has slowed down in nearly every other area, so everyone put the money into AI, the one growth area. Which made the bubble bigger, and more attractive for investment, and so on

Now when the AI bubble pops, it's going to create bills no one can pay. And if we manage through that crisis, the next one will be larger. It's the nature of a debt based economy

This ends in a jubilee, where the debts are forgiven, through hyperinflation, where the debts are shrunk into nothing, or the people in charge keep arguing about it until the starving peasants burst in

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Failure of the imagination and lack of political courage

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

As a child, some of mother's friends were really into healthy alternatives and stuff. One day that one make carob cookies instead of chocolate chip cookies.

I fucking CRIED as a kid eating them. They were so sad and wrong and these adults are telling me they taste exactly the same and they were lying why are they lying meltdown.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago

Carob shares exactly one attribute with chocolate: it is brown.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As the child of crunchy parents in the 80s and 90s, I can answer that! No!

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago

Kids stopped coming to my birthday parties because of the carob cakes.

Fucking Hell No. Save the Chocolate!

[–] stray@pawb.social 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I enjoyed carob as a kid and would like to be able to find some in shops today. It's not the same as chocolate, but I'm okay with the logic behind multiple food items differing.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

I loved carob as a kid, tried some recently and it was pretty bad.

I assume it's something to do with how it's processed, since it's not like raw cocoa beans are very nice either.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

Ugh, my kids were vegan for a while, so I did my best to make vegan alternatives for the things they loved. They were pretty happy with the vegan carob chip cookies, but they tasted like sadness to me. Like "Oh! This is vaguely like something wonderful... Too bad it misses the mark."

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

given how they keep on adultering chocalate to a worse and worse taste I can see carob taking over from wherever it ends at.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the biggest fuck-you to chocolate is companies like Hersheys processing much of the cocoa butter out and replacing it with PGPR - poly glycerin poly ricinate - which is a castor bean derived oil.. and it's bitter and the texture is absolutely NOT similar to cocoa butter.

Part of why I no longer eat Reese's peanut butter cups. Can taste it and the chocolate isn't nearly as smooth as it used to be. It's nasty.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I doubt chocolate would completely disappear, but it's gonna get exquisitely expensive.

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am sitting here, wondering whether hoarding chocolate counts as an investment. 😂

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only if you freeze it - and I'd freeze cocoa powder. Can't leave it stored at room temperature - there's too much cocoa butter solids, even in the powder, so it's perishable.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Oh good to know! I have a bunch sitting storage but I should freeze it

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For any candy that includes HFCS, might as well switch it to carob, stop ruining real chocolate.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Same with anything sold/licensed by Hersheys (includes Cadbury in the US) or Mars.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

It's not quite as good but I'd live, I do have an affinity for Sixlets, after all.