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[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

You can never have enough.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's the suck thing about Reddit, all those removed posts. Good thing that doesn't happen here on Lemmy Utopia....

Oh, wait

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The difference is the Modlog, which means everyone can see the receipts. (For the record, while it might not have been the most tasteful comment, I think that removing it and labeling you an SA apologist is bullshit.)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The difference is the Modlog, which means everyone can see the receipt

“But the plans were on display…”

“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”

“That’s the display department.”

“With a flashlight.”

“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”

“So had the stairs.”

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”

“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I take your point, but compared to Reddit, where there is no record unless a third-party website happens to archive it before the mods remove it, the Modlog is very transparent.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a vast improvement over the black box of Reddit. But a big stretch to claim its transparent in a material sense. Most people don't have the time or background to figure out the what and why of a mod action. And once something is removed, it's dead to time.

[–] slappyfuck@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Although I would say that the inability to contact moderators and have a formal process of requests is significantly worse. I agree about the material sense of transparency.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm more annoyed at how a mod ban removes your ability to "block community" on the current front end. So I'm forced to go into settings and add them to my block list manually.

I don't particularly like a default policy that lets a community fill up your feed with content you're not allowed to participate in.

[–] slappyfuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

Oh? That’s awful! Totally agree that this should either default to invisible or make it easier for you to block.

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For me at least it seems there are way less bots here. I can deal with insufferable asslipped dickheads as long as they're human asslipped dickheads.

Reddit feels like 90% bots accusing bots of being bots.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

For me at least it seems there are way less bots here.

for now.

we're probably about 3-6 months away from a major AI bot infestation.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (51 children)

I kinda feel like Lemmy has been much more hostile recently. I don’t know if it’s bots or if I just post bad comments, but it makes me want to go back to just being a lurker.

EDIT: I was waiting for it to happen in this thread. Try to be positive and say something nice about the angry people, get downvotes. Haha. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I've seen a number of accounts that seem to harp on a single topic, grow increasingly adversarial if you dispute or refute anything posted, and eventually just start screaming insults until you block them.

This feels like very old-school early '10s era Reddit, where the Admins don't do more than the high level stuff to keep the site operational, the Mods are as overworked as they are short-tempered, and a handful of power users dictate the content of any given channel by spamming it with whatever media supports their personal grudges.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The world sucks right now. People on Lemmy are very aware of what's going on and are rightfully upset and that reflects in general sentiment and interactions.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

Yeah. I get it. I feel that way too. Especially, if you fall into a minority group, it’s a scary time to be.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It's not just you. People will wilfully misinterpret what I'm saying to their liking, sometimes accusing me of nonsense. Some others will jump in out of nowhere as if I owe them money. I have some asshole in my notifications right now trying to defend another asshole for some reason. The best part is how I'm the one getting downvoted for defending myself and calling them out on it.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

These are trolls. We're not immune to trolls here on Lemmy. They have a schedule that can be tracked, lol.

  • Don't take it personal
  • Downvote them
  • Leave one or two comments at most setting the record straight
  • Find something more interesting to discuss in another comment or thread.
  • Don't take it personal or think it's all of Lemmy.

Any online space is going to have these trolls, but especially a space that's kind of bucking the system and can't be as easily controlled.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 2 days ago

I've noticed people just back the person speaking the most strongly or is insulting harder as if those are tactics used by people who are commonly right.

Honestly even here on lemmy you get how Trump won.
Even here people can't help supporting the person acting like they are superior.

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[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I prefer Kegels exercises over Hegels dialectics

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What about Hegel exercises or Kegel dialectics though?

[–] HonorableScythe@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aren't Kegel dialectics just queefing?

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[–] rescue_toaster@lemmy.zip 66 points 4 days ago (22 children)

I've been on Lemmy for over a year, where I learned that there's some difference between liberals and leftists, though what those are, I don't know.  I also had never heard the term tankie before Lemmy.  I've never cared to look any of these terms up though.  Probably makes me one of them... 

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There is a simple test to determine if you're a tankie, specifically.

  1. Did Tiananmen Square happen? Specifically, was it bloody, consented/orchestrated by the CCP leadership, and resulted in the deaths of unarmed civilian protesters?

  2. Was it wrong that it happened?

If both answers are yes, you're not a tankie. You believe that oppressive regimes are evil regardless of which side of the political spectrum it spawns from.

Bonus points if you think Stalin was anything but benevolent. If you think his methods were "tough, but firm," then you're a tankie.

[–] Valarie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't tankie originally cold war British Communist slang to refer to people who agreed that the Hungarian revolution of 1956-1968 Was funded by the CIA and that rolling the tanks in was as such an appropriate response

(No I don't have this memorized so I had to double check but that was the original meaning)

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Pretty much that, yes.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tankie

Mildly amusingly... it is apparently also a slang term for a tank engine, as in, a steam powered train.

Choo-Choo!

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

In 1700s Europe the people in power were the nobility (the descendants of feudal aristocrats) and the clergy (the church). Their claim to power (legitimacy) was that God willed it, and also they had the biggest army ("ultima ratio regum").

Liberalism arose from "enlightenment thought" and basically said that all humans are equal, therefore state legitimacy comes from the consent of the people, and therefore there should be a set of laws that guarantees everyone's rights and gives everyone a say in how society should be run. Some subjects (such as religion) belong to a "private sphere" that the state has no say in and is therefore beyond politics. State power should be minimal and tightly regulated through mechanisms such as the bill of rights or the separation of powers. This ideology was the foundation of the US independence and the French revolution. The political thinkers most emblematic of it are John Locke and Montesquieu.

The people who gained most from erasing the special place in society of the nobility and the clergy ("abolishing the privileges") were people who were rich but not part of these organisations, that is to say merchants and industrialists. Leftism was born out of the "social question" : everyone having the same rights is cool but the richer in society clearly benefit more while the poorer are unable to make use of these "rights" (for instance having the right to a trial does you no good if you can't afford a lawyer ; or being allowed vacation days is pointless if you can't afford to stop working). It is somewhat at odds with liberalism, because solving the social question might require to break some rules of liberalism (most notably state non-intervention, private property, and separation of powers). The most emblematic political thinker here is Karl Marx.

Some leftists theorized the state should be violently overthrown in order to install themselves as dictators and therefore solve the social question by directly redistributing wealth to the poorest. The most important of these is Lenin, who took over the government of Russia in 1917, turning it into the Soviet Union. However he soon died and passed power to Stalin, who cemented his dictatorship and took over a number of countries through military force. When some of these countries (most notably Hungary in 1956) tried to rebel, the Soviet government sent in their army. Thus "tankie" is an insult ― it means one who excuses the brutality of the Soviet government, or more generally the usage of force by a leftist power. It mostly means the same as "stalinist".

Meanwhile, in the US people were divided on how much state power was acceptable to use. The democratic party used state power to fix the economy during the great depression (Roosevelt), then fight racism during the civil rights era (Johnson) ; today a part of society aligned with the democratic party wishes to use state power to fight sexism and other social issues, therefore being closer to the leftist view. The word "liberal" in US parlance came to mean those people, who today call themselves progressives, and the "liberals" I referred to earlier are sometimes referred to as "classical liberals" in order to avoid confusion.

I hope this clears things up

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

I wish I would have had someone like you as a history teacher in school. Back then we got a very brief and basic "here are the definitions of socialism/communism. These may sound good, but that's just because you're young, they're actually bad. We're not discussing why, or going into specifics." I'm not sure the discussion even goes that far today in US schools, as most teachers like having a job.

Of course my gut reaction to this as a teen was to launch into my own "semi-tankie" anti-west, anti-imperialist phase. After a few swings back into liberalism, I eventually found a comfortable (if idealistic) ideological home somewhere between socialist democracy and social anarchism, but it was a long, bumpy, and confusing road there.

It seems quite a few on this site never made it past that angsty adolescent phase. They'll tell you "tankies" is an insult, or a slur even, but I'm not exactly worried about hurting someone's feelings with that when they openly call for authoritarianism and even support ethnic cleansing and genocides, as long as they're done by countries or groups that have their approval.

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[–] pieland@piefed.social 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

a liberal is probably your average usa democrat that is considered conservative by european standards

a leftist is anyone that democrat might consider too radical (like bernie sanders who, for a lot of leftists, might just barely be considered leftist)

edit: i’m being downvoted - am i wrong? i was under the impression that this was the difference between a liberal and a leftist

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Liberal is used differently in different places, which causes a lot of the confusion. Kind of like how conservative sometimes means resistant to change and sometimes means regressive depending on who has adopted the label.

The oversimplified pattern that I see for a linear political spectrum, which is too simplified to be accurate when one gets into the weeds but easier to explain conceptually is:

Leftist -- Liberal -- Centrist -- Conservative -- Far Right

In the US liberals are called leftists by the conservatives who are actually the far right because our overall spectrum is shifted pretty far to the right. Centrists aren't really in the middle as much as they are trying to appease both sides. Again, this is very oversimplified but when you hear that liberals aren't really leftists they are basically saying that liberals are not nearly as far left as they claim to be.

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[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

If you were a tankie you'd open your comment with a 7 paragraph on why you're not a tankie, followed by a dissertation that would make a HD2 autocannon proud by deflecting so much

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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

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Disinformation only hinders the cycle. Misinformation if offered in good faith can cause hiccups but perseverance can overcome those and aid all involved.

Argumentation in bad faith helps nobody - it's purely emotional vomit.

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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Actually, here is what you guys don't understand about Hegels dialectics:

>No u.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

The post just above the it's talking shit about tankies. And I love how it's allowed here!

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