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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (14 children)

Recently there was a similar incident in China involving a Xiaomi car. This led to an incoming legislation that will require all cars to have mechanical handles in case of emergency.

Tesla alone had many such cases and there are no plans whatsoever to do anything about it.

Imagine losing to China in safety regulations.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Why not? China is developing while the US is sitting around with their thumb up their ass.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There are tons of valid criticisms of China but they seem to have their shit firmly together in many areas.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't go that far... They are really all over the place

But at least they don't allow companies to get powerful enough to control the government. If there's one lesson to learn, it's how important it is to keep capital in line

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

they don't let companies get powerful enough to run the government.

Communists: big company bad!

Libs: big government bad!

it's the same picture

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 5 days ago

Me: big thing, bad outcome

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 3 points 6 days ago

That is one good thing about state capitalism. Although, it does nothing to prevent party corruption, which has definitely been getting worse for them.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago

They're developing while we are unveloping.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We've been fed a lot of information over the years that isn't strictly accurate. While their government is demonstrably overbearing, they have prioritized a substantial technical renaissance. I'm sure there is still some pretty crazy stuff going on since you can get a full meal in a noodle shop for the equivalent of a couple bucks, but they're really advancing quickly in many sectors.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Paraphrasing Louis CK, the things you can do if you ignore basic human rights is pretty awesome.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

There's a lot of shit they haven't handled right. Their propaganda engine is absolute, and people disappear for years when they criticize the government in the slightest way. But that hasn't really done anything with that that'd i'd call pretty awesome.

The government runs half of the largest companies. They are all commanded to work together, at a loss if necessary to get things done. When the government said we're going in on solar, they forced the aluminum companies to fill solar orders first and cheaply, they commanded the banks to give them extremely favorable loans. Now, when they make a panel, the raw cost is far better than can be produced anywhere else.

People are allowed to move from their home zones, but they lose a lot of their government benefits. When they want to spin up a new manufacturing center, They offer to let people move to the new location while keeping their benefits. They can direct the labor, through opportunity and spin up cities on a dime.

How they treat their fringe groups is awful. The lack of personal freedom and stranglehold they still have on business is enough to keep me from ever wanting to go there for more than a visit, but however everything is run isn't quite as bad as we've been led to believe either.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

about 70 models currently on US roads sporting electric handles

So you can be mad at Tesla for making this popular but it's clearly not a Tesla specific problem anymore.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Its like manufacturers thought, "let's take these incredibly dangerous machines and make them less reliable."

I honestly dont get it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No, they said "let's take these incredibly dangerous machines and make them MORE PROFITABLE"

Follow the money. It's ALWAYS follow the money.

Look at it that way, and you'll get it.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago (5 children)

For a while, long before Teslas were around, my wife went through a phase where she didn't want a car with electronic door locks, "in case we crash into a retention pond."

So it came time for a new car, and while I'm talking with the sales people about price and such, all she wants to know is if she can get it without electronic locks. It seemed like she'd pay double if it didn't have the e-locks.

Finally I said, "I've never gone into a retention pond, and I don't know anyone who has ever gone into a retention pond. It seems like the real solution to the retention pond problem isn't skipping electronic door locks, it's STAYING OUT OF RETENTION PONDS! Let's try that solution first. if you go into a retention pond, then we'll discuss getting rid of e-locks."

It's been about 30 years, and I still don't know anyone whose gone into a retention pond, including my wife. But she still mentions the lock thing whenever we get a new car.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)
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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

It seems like the real solution to the retention pond problem isn't skipping electronic door locks, it's STAYING OUT OF RETENTION PONDS

The premise of this logic is wholesale problematic.

You can use the same logic and say:

The real solution to seat belts is to just not wreck your car

The real solution to stair rails is to just not fall down stairs

The real solution to fire alarms is to just not light your building on fire

...etc

Same reasoning/logical framework applied to different problem areas.

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[–] ThisGuyThat@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Don't tell your wife, but there are whole youtube channels on this. They go around searching for missing people in bodies of water. They find more missing people than I would've thought.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How many of them crashed in there vs how many were dumped after being murdered?

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[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Which is hilarious because:

A. Virtually all electronic locks can ^also^ be operated manually.

  1. By the time you're deep enough to prevent operating electronic locks, that door is not going to open, simply because of the pressure differential.
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

But electronic locks don't stop you from opening the door. Or it shouldn't I pull the handle door opens up.

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In that case, it's past time to get Tesla shutdown and Elon Musk arrested for producing this shit.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That was in the works, and then Trump let him DOGE every investigation into his behavior. That's obstruction, and when we take back power, he should be charged with that, and everything else he's guilty of. Then give him a trillion dollar fine, and life in prison.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

but there's not even a summary or link to the analysis in this article? where's the fucking data?

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