Initiate plan B 
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What!?!?! Did the Republicans make a deal to get their tax break passed and then lie about their part of the bargain? Really, no one saw this coming .... except everyone.
So glad that the Democrats went ahead and passed the CR without any concessions on this. It worked out so great here!
Idiots.
I really hope every cunt capitulating to the Nazis gets primaried and removed from office
tf is this
To the volcano with you
Well, good thing Dems threw away their leverage for a vote that never happened. See, folks...this is what "winning" looks like.
FYI the vote did happen a few days ago. It just had the entirely predictable result of failing, since there was no longer any leverage for Republicans to vote for it
Democrats sold out for the promise of maybe a deal.
Complicit.
so blinking on the shutdown confirmed useless. super.
who could have predicted this?!?
Less than useless. Actually harmful. The shutdown itself hurt working families and they caved because they knew people would suffer next year with no subsidies. If they were gonna cave anyway they should never have started the shutdown. It was just for press so they can tie themselves to the idea of lower healthcare. In lieu of helping people now they are letting them suffer on the hope that if they suffer enough they'll vote blue. It's disgusting and transparent.
Not completely useless it allowed the republicans to have a talking point that the democrats were obstructing for no reason.
As was foretold by the deep magic.
What worries me most is their acting like they don’t worry about the midterms … how?!
People are deeply stupid.
The Left will inevitably start getting pissy that their candidates didn't win primaries and sit out the generals. And the conservatives will get brainwashed into thinking all the problems were a time bomb left by Barack HUSSEIN Obama.
And... it is increasingly looking like there might be good odds that trump is dead by then and president vance (and now I threw up in my mouth a bit) is sacrificed as "undoing all the good trump did and why you need to vote for hegseth in 2028"
Also at this stage they know they will just fix the vote if things aren't swinging their way. They don't give a rats ass about the law anymore.
Vote fixing is not that easy.
Massive landslide victories will be far too obvious. I am not sure if there is a "Your honor, this is clearly bullshit" clause for recounts but it will trigger them.
As for the closer stuff? Yes, electronic voting is deeply stupid and dangerous. But it is also worth understanding that many systems are still built around a paper ballot that you feed into it. And those will show massive discrepancies. ESPECIALLY in the "blue states" where these wins would most matter.
For a presidential election? I could see a world where very targeted election fraud could MAYBE be pulled off, but I stand by: can you imagine the chuds and musk NOT bragging about outright fraud?
But for midterms and anything down ballot? The places that matter most are the ones where republicans don't control the state government in its entirety. And when the recount is like 20% different than the reported vote?
Nah. Election fraud is the distraction. They'll just perform, ANOTHER, violent insurrection and take the government by force.
If you rig the elections enough you don't have to worry.
Or you just cancel them because something something "antifa".
Rigged elections. Republican super donor company bought dominion voting machines. Just one example.
Obviously they have a plan for that
You think there will be midterms.
There will absolutely be midterms, just like how Russia has elections. They go through the motions and report the results they want.
Listen, you got what you voted for. Maybe the next time you're forced to choose between pay your bloated premiums or your bloated deductibles and copays, you'll remember this moment and vote differently.
I'm just going to sit here, smugly, and enjoy my Italian citizenship and complementary public health care system.
I hope the Italian healthcare system is doing better than it was in 2020.
You want us to check the COVID leaderboard?
If Italy was a US state it would be 21st best of the 51 right between Iowa and Illinois in deaths per million.
Vaffanculo
Ho trovato il repubblicano.
If enough GOP Representatives are upset about it, they can either band with the Democrats to file a discharge petition to force a vote, the same way they did with the Epstein files. They could also move forward with a motion to unseat Speaker Johnson entirely. If they’re unwilling to do either then, quite frankly, I don’t want to hear about their crocodile tears.
Can anybody help me out with exactly what this means? I helped my son do his insurance last night and it's still showing a subsidy. Right now he has a $40 a month plan with a $400 subsidy. I know he'll probably owe a penalty on that when/ if he does his taxes. It's incredibly confusing!
I'm tired, boss
Obese Leopard eating the faces of the 8 Democrat sellouts.
I'm just going to sit here and enjoy the no deductible insurance provided to me by my blue state job, that costs me $10 a month after trading in vacation time to get a $110 discount each month. Mike Lawler voted against impeaching trump, again on 12/11/25. He voted yes to tabling impeachment in June of 2025 also. More performative bullshit from a rethuglican. Thoughts and prayers to the democrats in his district. Republicans in his district, along with him, can enjoy getting EXACTLY what they voted for. Lawler has that sweet sweet gubment insurance plan, so he'll be fine. I'll be waiting with the popcorn when his constituents turn on him.
Truthfully, if the subsidies had been extended through 2026 to any degree, it would be a complete slap in the face to the responsible people who signed up by the deadline (Dec 15) to avoid a gap in coverage. Not that I wouldn't have been happy for those who fucked around and got rewarded for it, but I'd also have been pissed because I followed the rules and I'm locked into a suboptimal plan now because it's the best I could afford -- yet it's complete shit. Even a partial subsidy would likely have empowered me to be able to select something better. Not to mention, I've spent the past month trying to decide if I can even afford insurance at all. And also not to mention that the rules and policies should have been fully and completely finalized well ahead of the November start of open enrollment.
Everyone who wanted the government to still be shut down, air travel crippled, and families hungry, we’re so sorry.
We had no idea the republicans would fuck up so bad that even their brain-dead cult gets angry at them.