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Turns out it wasn't the wine (lemmy.world)
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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

There’s not enough wine in the world for what Americans have to deal with. I wish i could get the insurance company to approve my husband’s spinal reconstruction so he can go back to work before his insurance lapses…but unfortunately they keep asking for more tests, physical therapy and injections but sometimes the injections get denied by a gynecologist and then we have to get him back to the previous couple of doctors to order the same treatment that we really don’t need anyway because it’s just a stall tactic by the insurance company to obstruct his surgery a surgery that they approved last year for a double tier spinal fusion but then they decided he could only get one tier done so he never recovered and it’s been a maze of bs ever since. It would have been cheaper for them to let the doctor do both tiers but they canceled the second tier hours before the surgery. You can’t make this shit up it makes no sense

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 29 points 13 hours ago

In addition to a culture of walking, biking, and taking public transit to where they need to go. Maybe the extra vacation time to destress and get out and see the world helps too

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 11 points 13 hours ago

There are big differences between European countries and Mediterranean diet is still considered healthier then most. Also lots of sun helps. But yes, wine was just a coincidence.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 44 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

UCL demographer’s work debunking ‘Blue Zone’ regions of exceptional lifespans wins Ig Nobel prize

Turns out it was pension fraud.

[–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Lol…

“For example, despite vegetables and sweet potatoes being promoted as key components of the Okinawan ‘Blue Zone’ diets, according to the Japanese government, Okinawans eat the least vegetables and sweet potatoes in Japan and have the highest body mass index.”

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, we haven't been the island of longevity for a long time. Male suicide rates are so high it affects our average lifespan. I really hate when outsiders think of island is some kind of tropical paradise even though we suffer constantly.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

This fits better because within Europe is was the "Mediterranean Diat" and southern Europe is worse of financially. Most universal healthcare is in Scandinavia and they aren't famous for red wine and stuff.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Uh, we have universal healthcare in Spain, my experience with hospitals in Germany, Finland and Norway was that you had to pay for going to emergencies.

Not so sure if most universal healthcare is in Scandinavia...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If you zoom in on the actual municipalities in Southern Europe where people "lived the longest", it was inevitably poor townships that were still using paper accounting systems. Also a strong correlation between "living long" and "being in a neighborhood that's unusually mobbed up". Sicily's a classic example.

That's not even to comment on health care. Italy, Spain, and France all have excellent public health care systems. And there's plenty of evidence to suggest people with access to public care do benefit enormously relative to their peers overseas and south of the Mediterranean.

But if you want to know why certain neighborhoods had a surplus of centenarians, when the average lifespan in even the most developed countries caps out at around 80? That's just fraud.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In Italy the health care system is good until you go further south of rome

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not just the health care system. South Italy might as well be a different country.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Well yeah, all the governments since the country union neglected south Italy that it's basically it's own thing aside from law

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 27 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Americans eat like they have universal healthcare though.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 14 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Obviously this varies but I found myself walking far more in Europe than in the US.

Also, some of the obesity I saw in the States I didn't see anywhere else. It was wild.

Once again, all anecdotal.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago

Having recently moved to Europe I've dropped about 20 lbs. That's like 9kg.

The only changes I made were my daily commute is now walking based and the food here is just better. Turns out real food fills you up so you eat less

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

american food is poison. nobody can afford to buy and cook fresh food so we are all slowly getting diabetes for picking up processed meals on the way home from our third job that is a 45 min drive each way. obv ymmv but this is america.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

nobody can afford to buy and cook fresh food

No, you just cherry pick expensive ingredients so you can tell yourself that cooking your own food is more expensive. As an extreme example, how much would a pound of oats cost? Surely a fraction of any takeout meal you can think of

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

"affording" includes the energy and time to cook, and that all assumes nobody in the house struggles with food aversions or similar. you might be able to cook all your food, but not everyone can.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 14 hours ago

Obviously this varies but I found myself walking far more in Europe than in the US.

Whenever I have to visit family in the [US] suburbs, it's a nightmare of driving everywhere. Walking a mile or two every day just living life has health benefits.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

There's a sub called stupidfood on reddit. The content there is mostly ads for studpidly over proportions of food and sometimes mixed with junk.

What it says it there's a huge market for this stuff there.

Recent example: https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/StupidFood/comments/1po98en/how_to_ruin_steak_in_30_minutes_or_less_in_an_age/

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Came here to say that. Europeans don't eat the shit that Americans shovel in their mouth. If they did, their whole healthcare system would bankrupt within days. It's part of the reason why Americans can't have universal healthcare. We are all terminal

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago

Cost is not why we don't have universal healthcare. Even with how bad American food is, it would still be cheaper to institute universal healthcare.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YCOT5LasKc

"and we never get fat because of olive oil."