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Mozilla is in a tricky position. It contains both a nonprofit organization dedicated to making the internet a better place for everyone, and a for-profit arm dedicated to, you know, making money. In the best of times, these things feed each other: The company makes great products that advance its goals for the web, and the nonprofit gets to both advocate for a better web and show people what it looks like. But these are not the best of times. Mozilla has spent the last couple of years implementing layoffs and restructuring, attempting to explain how it can fight for privacy and openness when Google pays most of its bills, while trying to find its place in an increasingly frothy AI landscape.

Fun times to be the new Mozilla CEO, right? But when I put all that to Anthony Enzor-DeMeo, the company’s just-announced chief executive, he swears he sees opportunity in all the upheaval. “I think what’s actually needed now is a technology company that people can trust,” Enzor-DeMeo says. “What I’ve seen with AI is an erosion of trust.”

Mozilla is not going to train its own giant LLM anytime soon. But there’s still an AI Mode coming to Firefox next year, which Enzor-DeMeo says will offer users their choice of model and product, all in a browser they can understand and from a company they can trust. “We’re not incentivized to push one model or the other,” he says. “So we’re going to try to go to market with multiple models.”

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 49 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Is there like a petition or something we can all sign to show that literally no cunt wants this?

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Uninstall it and pick a different platform. These cunts think you won't and THATS why they don't give a fuck. Enough people swap and oh, hey, maybe we should rethink this mistake. If not - not your problem... You already bounced.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (10 children)

If anyone has any suggestions for browsers hook me up, I'm running out of browsers with thier own engines to try. I don't see much point in using, say, LibreWolf if the engine is still the same as Firefox (Gecko in this case). Maybe I'll give NetSurf a try and pretend like it's 1996 again.

edit i don't see much point because doing some about:config shenanigans is nearly the same amount of work to me as switching browsers.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I'm afraid that not using Gecko or Blink may expose me to any sort of malware while visiting the web tbh

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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 506 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] dimjim@sh.itjust.works 116 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is such a fantastic way to put it. I fuckin love the internet, people have amazing ways to say things lol

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[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 101 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Man, I so wish mozilla was a worker owned cooperative. These string of useless CEOs would have already been shown the door

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

mozilla foundation is like susan comen breast cancer foundation, where the CEO takes the large chunk of donation for him/herself.

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[–] FluidBeef@quokk.au 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Is it possible for the major forks to just go their own way, or is it more complicated than that? Obviously anyone building a new browser engine from the ground up now with complete HTML, CSS and JavaScript spec is so immense an undertaking as to sound far-fetched, so the open source community would need to leverage whatever it can.

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 57 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I've cancelled my monthly donation to Mozilla. What's the point. Every bit of feedback I've provided is to the tune of no goddamn AI, spend my money towards keeping up with the alternatives to make sure there's always an extra player in the field. Instead it's going to some overpaid dickhead who's going to introduce AI.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 13 hours ago

firefox is almostly completely dependant on google through ad revenue, hence thats why the sudden jump into AI, which google is trying to jam into all its services.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 33 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Just like I said in another post related to this, I hope this doesn't kill LibreWolf, IceCat, and Waterfox.

[–] ChromaticMan@lemmy.world 44 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Librewolf have put a post out a few days ago that they won’t add any AI stuff.

https://chaos.social/@librewolf/115716906957137196

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Waterfox is on the same page. As long as the browser doesn't outright require it to functio0n, I think the privacy-focused forks will remain. Of course, it's extra work to maintain divergent code, but this is worth it, IMO.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If brave is able to have their own adblock integrated into the browser by default despite Google being behind much of Chrome I think Firefox forks should be fine. Sucks everything seems to have AI these days shoved in, so it's hard to escape whether it is Chrome forks or chromium alternatives.

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[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 201 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I feel like mozilla could switch to making all their decisions by flipping a coin and do better than they're doing in recent years

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

mozilla is nothing more than an extension of GOOGLE, since they recieved most of thier funding from them. they are essentially google shills, and probably using thier AI too. i wouldnt be surprise if google tries to buy them down the line.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 59 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Mozilla’s new CEO is a dumbass.

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[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is "must make the dumbest fucking decision possible at all times" in the Mozilla CEO job description or something?

I have no CEO experience, but I'll make stupid fucking decisions for a fifth of the salary you're paying the current guy.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago

It's almost as if they are out of touch with their users. I don't get it. CEOs are just normal people like us.

/s

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is every Mozilla CEO in the last decade:

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[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

EU here is your chance! Fully fund Mozilla on the condition that they move to an EU country

[–] Spectrism@feddit.org 6 points 13 hours ago

I think the money would be better spent on Servo, which is already based in the EU. While it's still in it's early days, it seems to be making some good progress lately and it might just be me, but I think Servo has a lot more potential. At least using Rust and not relying on GTK already sounds like a dream to me.

[–] yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 20 hours ago

And fire the CEO :)

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[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (28 children)

Their user base is almost exclusively tech savvy people, the same people who are most opposed to AI.

I think this move signals that they believe we have nowhere else to go, and they're daring us to go fuck ourselves, because fuck you, what are you going to do, use Chrome?

Yes, yes I will, well Chromium forks.

In general, I prefer the look and feel of chromium-based browsers, but I use Firefox and Firefox forks for the reasons that I'm sure everyone here is aware of.

If those reasons go away, I'll just switch to Vivaldi as my primary browser. I won't be happy about it, but if Firefox becomes another AI slop project. I might as well go with the browser whose UX I prefer.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 43 points 22 hours ago

Yes, yes I will, well Chromium forks.

Yeah, I'm not going to switch to a Manifest V3 browser because Firefox puts in access to an optional AI agent. If Firefox makes it so you can't turn it off, which I wouldn't think is likely, I might switch to something like Librewolf, but Chromium? No.

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