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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)
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[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it. Second: our business model must align with trust. We will grow through transparent monetization that people recognize and value. Third: Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software. Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions.

Are the first and third points not contradicting? Having control over AI in the browser means that the browser cannot be AI first. Maybe they need to step back and look at their core audience and a shifting user preference for less big tech and more control.

I think the biggest thing that they can do is look at what the Firefox forks are doing and try and implement the features that led to people leaving. I'm using Zen not only for the addition features and UI elements it brings, but also the things that it chooses not to include.

They can also look at what IronFox and LibreWolf do to create a new built in profile that maximizes privacy and security trading off convenience.

Finally, they have failed to capture new users when google is blocking ad blockers. When you have a smaller market share you need to take advantage of your competitor's mistakes.

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago

You either die a hero or live long enought to become the villain

[–] mos@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Damn. Any good recommendations for alternatives?

[–] miguel@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago

Your choices are basically FF spinoffs (waterfox, librewolf, etc), Chrome spinoffs, straight up AI browsers, crypto browsers, and a couple that are a sort of mix/match of the above.

The web is cooked.

[–] ServantOfRa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Librewolf or Floorp I guess. They work well enough, though Librewolf might be a bit too opinionated for some.

[–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

I use LibreWolf but tell most people to use Waterfox since it's just Firefox without Mozilla's crap.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey Mozilla, any chance you could add the ability to add tags to bookmarks on mobile during this evolution?

Or make add-on settings/configuration container specific (noscript forex)?

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Would be great if pinned shortcuts and collections would get synced as well.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

Yes that too!

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

Yes that too!

[–] miked@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Are you all raw-dogging whatever Mozilla spits out?

There are many forks that remove their insanity.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh boy, I can't wait for ladybird's alpha release

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funded by fascists, last I heard.

[–] tatann@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Care to elaborate ? Because of the Proton sponsor ?

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Just subscribed to the newsletter.

Well, I guess we just need to move to Ladybird. Either that or my browsing is going to become entirely curl + Links.

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