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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In addition to immigration laws, there are lots of other reasons that make it difficult to move. Aside from obvious financial considerations, it is difficult to just walk away from one's social circle. People often underestimate the importance of social support (I'm talking about friends and family here). Cultural differences compound this social isolation further.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Precisely this. My partner and I uprooted our lives to move to a new country. I left a loving community, a strong career, and so much more. I absolutely miss my home but didn't feel safe continuing to live in the states. I pulled the trigger first chance I could and I'm glad I did because there haven't been any since then.

We cry very often because there is so much just trauma and grief that we haven't been able to process. No one tells you just how hard it's gonna be. To give an example, I frequently hallucinate seeing or hearing my friends around my new city. Every time I do I have to hold back tears. I absolutely choke up whenever I video call them. Getting a visa is just the start of the process.

(Don't get me wrong, I also LOVE my new home, this country has been nothing but welcoming and we have had a super easy time assimilating and making friends)

I never had friends in China, I never missed anyone "back home" (well... its not like I got to know any of the relative very well, so I didn't miss them being 8 at the time) but I constantly think about the hypothetical alt-universe where I never left China... like for better or worse... its hard to stop thinking about it.

I feel like I belong in neither places.

Like existential crisis stuff.

On the surface, in 2010, the US was also seemingly welcoming, but you have subtle casual racism stuff, especially when you move to less-immigrant cities like Philly. Kids here wete just horrible. The Elementary school I went to had not much Asians so racism was common, worse in middle school.

Like you had no idea how much shit I had to go through, and identity crisis. Who the fuck am I. I don't know if I can do this again, especially the learning a language thing, now I don't have the advantage of youth again. And I'm the adult now having to plan everything, instead of everything already being done for me.

Like... it'd be so sad if I pick a place, miraculously get an immigration visa, then that place goes to shit AGAIN, then I'd have to do this v3.0 lmao

Depression is killing me lol

I think for me, its not just "move to EU" that easily. Like... the population of Asians in EU is much lower afaik, I would feel even less "belonging" there tbh.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Immigration is only easy if you're wealthy.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Us citizen here recently moved to Sweden. I have a lot of things going for me: I was able to save up money working in tech, I'm using that to pay for living and tuition on a study permit, recently divorced and mostly estranged so I don't have a lot of ties holding me back, I have a sought after skillset and enough savings to basically be guaranteed I was accepted.

I'm still struggling with everything. There was and is so much paperwork, so many loose ends, even after getting here it's just been months of hardship trying to get stuff lined up. Trying to get my savings out of USD without interrupting being able to pay for things and not risk being flagged for money laundering is an ongoing battle. Housing here is wonky and I'm risking homelessness next year if I can't get it figured out in time. I have no strong community ties here yet so I'm toast if I stumble too badly. The US has their grubby hands all up in my business still so I'm answering to two countries at any given time instead of just one.

There are certainly avenues people can take to get out of the US that are easier than what I've done but anyone who says it is easy is full of shit or incredibly privileged.

[–] sucius@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I wish you all the best. I moved countries twice and had to learn 2 different languages. It's a struggle

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[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude, I would flee the US in a heartbeat to somewhere that isn't a fascist state if I feasibly could, as I kinda don't feel safe here as a citizen, let alone what anyone visiting the country may feel like.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

So that “if I feasibly could” part is exactly what the poster is talking about.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I could have gained citizenship in Spain or Portugal based on my family name alone (and like €600 or so) when they had the citizenship path for Sephardic Jewish heritage. I found out too late though and they had closed the door before I even knew about my distant relatives in the first place.

Wife is Irish enough to claim her passport so we're working that path currently. Those things are just your right to establish a life there, though, and don't include figuring out housing, source of income and everything else.

It certainly feels like we're going to miss our chance, but it's definitely worth it to keep working toward IMO.

[–] karashta@piefed.social 44 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Can't really immigrate as a disabled person. I'm basically considered unwanted trash by everyone.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Yup. Being disabled you're basically fucked.

In had no idea. Sorry about your situation.

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On top of that, people have families, jobs, and other commitments that hinder their plans. Moving to another town is already hard enough as it is, but relocating to another country is even harder.

While it’s certainly possible and perhaps even advisable, it’s not a realistic option for most people. If your life is in danger, remaining isn’t really an option, so any associated difficulties with moving and starting anew are the lesser evil. However, for everyone else, the situation gets complicated.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Americans have probably the easiest migration path in the world. Strong passport, very high wages and currency value, strong migration support and programs, remote friendly economy etc etc.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, we can't just move some place. Most countries require a substantial income or huge investment. Incomes require jobs, and countries require employers to make an attempt to hire citizens first. Most of us speak one language too, so even if we go to the shittiest countries, we'll be vulnerable to scams.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nope. I'm literally a digital nomad myself though mostly settled in Thailand these syas. Americans absolutely have an unmatched privileged here very few countries come even close to matching and can relocate relatively easily.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago

Not everyone is a digital nomad.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

While there are definitely perks to being an American trying to relocate, it's also definitely not easy. If you think it is, you are operating under a survivorship bias. Your situation will vary greatly from another's.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Not easy it what sense? In absolute sense it's not easy for everyone - duuuh. But in relative sense Americans have an incredible privilege here and yall still whine.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If it's not sarcasm in response to americans telling other people to just move to another country/overthrow government, it can be a common misconception. Yet I struggle to see where it comes from: as far as I can tell, "just moving to another country" is not something most people who work for a wage can easily do

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is correct. Ithought I could almost afford it, but I would need to save up an amount of money that is not really possible to save up in my situation and besides that I don't know if I could psychologically manage actually getting everything lined up and working properly in a whole other country. I've looked into it in depth, and it is incredibly taxing and difficult.

I don't know if it's something I could ever really manage, even in some of the countries that are "easier" to immigrate to.

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I actually looked into migrating a bit under Bush and they were more lax then. It was at least a year waiting list, you often had to have a marketable skill of some sort in demand in the country or enough money to basically never work again there. You had to have a clean record, pay several thousand for paperwork and lawyers, wait for approval, some wanted you to try and find employment before hand. It's probably much stricter no as I doubt I could immigrate to Canada from the USA. They're looking primarily for healthcare workers now and a lot of places because of their aging populations and lower birth rates. It's nuts.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah. Apparently to these people, America is the only country that people can think of that has strict immigration laws. Everyone else is apparently open borders without question.

[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

It's not even just the laws, it's very expensive to move.

[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve also read “move to another state” a lot. Which is also much easier said than done, even though there are some very legitimate reasons. Moving from a low cola to a high one is tough.

Also, you need employment and it's really hard. Then there is no guarantee that you'll be stable there either, since society is collapsing.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, some countries do have very strict standards for entry as much as the US; they'll choose only those they deem worthy by their standards -- entry is only possible with either level of wealth, skill sets, pedigree, language, or a combination of those.

However, there are some people in my country who envy and would even fight to get a chance to be American, despite the ongoing horrors in there, because they still equate citizenship in a developed country with wealth and supposed freedom from corruption.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Emigrating and immigrating as they are, poor people mostly cannot.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've always wondered how easy it would be to just move to Mexico or Canada, since either is possible to drive to. Like, legally or not.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They can deport you. Unless you try to claim asylum, but then you need to "prove" that the US Government is actually persecuting you, do you even have such "proof"?

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mexico is pretty easy. I think you can get a 5 year residency permit easily with no income or requirement to stay in country. Canada is harder and probably requires you to have a job lined up with an employer willing to sponsor. Or, you can go to school.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Not everyone will be able to move, it's true, but a lot of countries have provisions for reclaiming citizenship if you can show that an ancestor (usually only in the last couple of generations, but not always) was a citizen.

For instance, Ireland: if one of your parents was an Irish citizen, born on the island of Ireland, you can claim citizenship and a passport with minimal paperwork. If your parents weren't born there, but a grandparent was, there's more paperwork involved, but you can still get citizenship and a passport.

Once you have a passport for an EU country, you have a lot more freedom to travel, and settle, anywhere in the EU.

Many other countries have similar systems, so, if you do want to leave, it can be worth studying your family tree to see if there are any recent immigrants.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

if you do want to leave, it can be worth studying your family tree to see if there are any recent immigrants.

Family tree. 👀

I was born in China, I don't wanna go back.

I could theoretically try to recover citizenship, but nah, there is a reason why we left in the first place.

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[–] smh@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

I tried that route, but it turns out my folks left the Poland before it was modern Poland, so never held Polish citizenship. If only they'd sucked it up and stayed through World War I. /s

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Not only the laws and the costs, there's also the fact that I just don't want to change the way I live. There's nowhere on Earth that has the things I have here, and I own land (admittedly only .25 acres, but still).

[–] Today@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Stay and vote!! Talk to your neighbors and vote!!

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

Cant vote your way out of a fundamentally oppressive system.

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't want americans to leave the united state of fascism. I want them to stop voting in imbecilic tyrannical genocidal despots that are convicted rapists who like to fuck children so much that they are compromised by the russians.

Now let me be clear, the orange buffoon that's in 'control' now is all of the above, but any one thing of the above list is bad.

If a fair election ever happens again -because, let's face it, it's not guaranteed- and you feel that the person you are about to vote for is a russian stooge, or a kiddie fiddling rapist, or an imbecile etc etc then STOP ...and then vote in the person who will most likely not rape children, or try to overthrow your government for their own personal gain 👍.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Everyone I personally know in the Untied States who could vote, I'm pretty sure voted for Kamala Harris

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're preaching to the choir here bub

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I have sort of the opposite problem. My wife and I moved to Japan in our 20s and it was pretty damn easy because I'm a citizen and I had family help me find an apartment for us. We were 100% set in terms of basic necessities in like a week and could start job hunting immediately. Now that I'm in my 40s, we're trying to go back to Canada so we can take care of our parents more and let the kids experience Canadian schools, but it's so god damn expensive to do anything.

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