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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 90 points 5 days ago (41 children)

Opposing fascism isn’t far left. That’s just being a decent person.

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[–] n0respect@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Advanced strawman. Opposing fascism isn't far left. It's just not-right.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 46 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The US doesn’t really have a far left. It barely has a left. What MAGA calls left tends to be rather center, like the position that people should be able to afford healthcare.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 days ago

"Radical left Joe Biden" will never not be funny.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 5 days ago

also "left media" never has a foothold in the MSMs too.

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What if I informed you that there are more than two options, and they don't have to be extremities? And what if I followed up by informing you that what we have in the US, for a political spectrum, is not the norm elsewhere in the world?

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The political spectrum in the U.S. omits leftists entirely. Both Republicans and Democrats are pro-capitalism and pro-U.S. imperialism.

[–] Isolde@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And what if that not only changed nothing, but didn’t refute the post?

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

My reply was more aimed at the title of the post and its sentiment. "Pick a side"

I'm not a believer that there are only two political options for the US, long term, and would love to see a true political multi-party representation in the US government. I believe that something not completely (EU) far left will prevail in the US. And absolutely not the (US) far right. (Perhaps I'm just being a wishful fool, and the US will crash and burn in the next 1-5 years. Hopefully, we can make it out of this mess without doing so. But if it has to happen, so be it.)

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Too bad there isn't a political party representing "The Left"

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 13 points 5 days ago

I wish Americans had leftist politicians half as cool as the right likes to pretend they are.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Centrists are actually with maga, they just don't wear the hat. See Fetterman, Schumer, Jeffries, etc

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 9 points 5 days ago

I'll summarize something I said before:

Democrats will hurt you for money, but Republicans will pay for the privilege. Both parties subservient to capital but there are still meaningful distinctions. Change must come from the bottom.

[–] Arctic_monkey@leminal.space 5 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Counterargument: Centrists are actually a diverse group with many very different positions, that just have in common the fact they don't agree with either of the currently dominant political factions.

Aggressive reposte: what you just did (political stereotyping, where you label everyone who disagrees with you as basically being the same cartoon villain) is, in my experience, an example the left-wing bigotry that drives centrists away from your political faction. Disagreeing with your doesn't mean that I agree with the hateful morons on the right, it just means I also see and won't tolerate your bigotry.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

i think the "current far left" supports authoritarianism, so not the opposite, just different flavor of the same side.

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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How about we stop pretending that the left doesn't have its own share of emotionally damaged asshats and try to pick leadership that solves problems instead of pandering to one side or the other?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago

tankies are probably the worst presentation of the "left"

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Far left citizens may oppose fascism but their leaders aren't doing a good job of it. America needs a better left wing party.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

your right because there is none

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Yet another poorly made fallacy meme. Is there a bot just crapping out this same template every few days?

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

From a Canadian instance, really? This shit is so frustrating to see. The whole two party nonsense that this bullshit pushes is exactly why the usa is in the mess they are in now.

No, people don't have to "pick a side" the ones who think in terms of teams are our enemy.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The problem is not there are two sides. The problem is that there is only one side with 2 parties with the rest left unrepresented.

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[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 7 points 5 days ago

We hate centrists. Everyone hates centrists

Yeah, both are too loud and impeding the centrist ability to go back to Brunch lmao

Brunch: May or may not include stuffing their own pockets

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago

Far [insert preferred political allegiance] simply means extremist, usually unwilling to compromise. Whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing depends on your personal political opinions, but generally speaking an inability to reach a compromise is not a desirable trait regardless of your political leanings.

As a saying goes, perfect is the enemy of good. We don't want people refusing to embrace more libertarian policies simply because they don't get everything that they want. Progress is achieved by steadily grinding away at the norm, not by having a big explosive change all at once. That's what communists want.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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