Waaaah, regulations are Nazi ideology! Shut the fuck up Elon. Even anarchists realise the need to regulate shit so it doesnt get out of hand.
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"HOW FUCKING DARE YOU TELL ME HOW TO BEHAVE IN YOUR HOUSE, YOU NAZI?"
I'm actually interested, how would that work? As far as I know, anarchism is based around the removal of a state, so would it be up to the people to enforce these regulations? Or are we sorta working on the honour system here?
Yes exactly, authority would either come directly from the community or if need be, a temporary apparatus until the communityncan assume the authority. The point is to not leave any institutions lying around the psycho and sociopaths can hijack like they are now.
People agree on a regulation for a product > you claim compliance to that regulation voluntarily and mark it on your product > consumers chose whether to buy a regulated or unregulated product
> You make an unregulated product that is much cheaper but has massive negative externalities or long-term risks that a regular person can't oversee > everyone buys your product > people start dying because of your product > people agree that the regulation is now mandatory and ban your product.
You can pretend that "in a free market" the citizens will refuse to buy bad products, stores will refuse to sell bad products and manufacturers will refuse to create bad products. But then why is it different when a democratic government refuses to allow bad products?
Mainly I don't want ONLY an elected government to be the final arbiter on that determination.
But believe me, under a capitalist system it's of course virtually impossible to have this kind of system.
Elon Musk is a Moron and a fascist.
If EU really was Nazi, I bet he'd be really happy about it, he tried to help AfD in Germany the most Nazi like party in Europe since the actual Nazis.
This is just a "no you" response, to try to water down claims about Nazism, when the threat is actually real in USA, and Elon Musk is absolutely among the drivers of it.
EU is on the contrary fighting it, and fighting to uphold international law, after USA abandoned international law, democracy and human rights completely.

If anybody doubt that the AfD is a nazi party, this was a real electoral poster
Holy shit. And that's legal in Germany? What about "never again"?
I'd like to point out that the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution declared them a "proven right-extremist endeavor" back in May – until the AfD got a preliminary injunction against that. Until that is resolved they're not officially considered dangerous.
Of course the injunction hasn't been resolved yet and the AfD will probably try to stretch it out until the next general election.
Due to highly effective social media work (probably with some help from abroad) and the traditional media continually being goaded into talking about their preferred topics (and not, for instance, their laughably terrible fiscal policy), they currently stand to be the most powerful party after the next election. And you can guess how much that "proven right-extremist" declaration would mean if they get to form a government.
probably with some help from abroad
This is well proven, and also where abroad it comes from. Mostly China and Russia. (I'm guessing increasingly the USA, too.)
I don't think there's a list, but many individual cases have been reported over the years. Proven and factual, not just accusations.
If I remember correctly it was highly criticized and were force to dispose of them
They were very clever about it because the slogan says "we'll protect your children" so if you squint and you're also blind in your right eye, it looks like they're simply forming a protective roof above the kids.
I'm from Austria and I got the "house" idea, but it's clear as day what they did and in Austria I'm pretty sure a Geschworenengericht would have sentenced them (Verbotsgetzt). I'm not sure about the laws in Germany but given the history I guess you have similar laws.
They couldn't resist making even the arrow look like a sieg heil. The arrow!
Was that after elon's *cough* "roman salute"?
Before
I would have hoped after, but they've been doing this kind of trolling for a long time.
Even their logo does a Nazi salute. The swoosh is basically the motion a hand makes when it sieg heils
I thought he didn’t like the EU
"Any political Ideology I don't agree with is nazism, oh I was just making a harmless hand gesture don't you dare call me a Nazi!"

Communism is when the government does stuff, nazi is when laws are applied. Easy.
So does he like us or not?!
Coming from Elon, I'm guessing this is a compliment.
Every accusation is a confession, as per usual.
If that were true he would love the EU
Is he admitting it or calling someone else this?
He's having a tantrum directed at the EU right now for fining X.
He knows he's a Nazi. That's why he did two Nazi salutes that one time that he got excited while on stage at the Republican convention.
But there's a reason why fascists usually call themselves something else. Even the Nazis called themselves "socialists." It's because they know that their real views unpopular, or even if they're somewhat popular, they're embarrassing enough to have a stigma, and people who express their true views will face a penalty. So, of course, they'll only call other people "nazi" and pretend like they're not nazis.
Here is the gif of Hitler and Elon doing a nazi salute
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fb0aab42-450c-4b89-85b0-592ea842b13e.gif
I am here, deliberately. I've never even signed up for twitter. Can we leave it to him & his vile cronies, & not share the ramblings of a pathetic little man baby?
That isn't the twitter flag. I mean half of it is. The red half.
I bet people create these memes just to get a "!!" from Musk. Xhitter.
Liquidate Musk (financially, in Minecraft)
I'm reminded of the liquidators from Chernobyl who had to turn up the entire first few inches of topsoil and kill all the dogs and shit from around the whole area. I wish we could do that for radioactive people like musk
So the french are on the nazi side this time which makes me happy. I just wonder what Italy will do 🤔
Half of france was on the Nazi side last time…
You mean because they were fascist on their own or a part of the French population secretly supported the enemy side. The second one would be very new to me.
The Nazis only occupied the north half. The South half was a collaborationist state.
Yupperdoodles!

If anything Elon did it with even more vigour than Hitler. And you have to consider Elon Musk himself. He supports the AfD and gives Nazis safe spaces on his platform. I still remember when people tried to gaslight everyone by claiming he wasn't doing a Nazi salute, using still images of left wing politicians simply reaching out their hand as their "why aren't you calling them Nazis? You must be a hypocrite" excuse. Usually under the false guise of "I'm just asking questions" or "I'm neutral on the whole thing". It was really stupid because that wasn't even remotely the same thing but they thought they were being really clever. Anyone else remember that? It was nuts how far people went to defend him while Elon only sees them as sources of profit and nothing more
They are merely a proto-fascist organization.
But I guess the US nazi's don't want the competition.
Nazi is the epitome of modern double speak. Liberals like Musk simply can't decide whether the term is based edgy free speech or an existential threat to ~~their ability to make money~~ freedoms and liberties.