Hell yeah I love women
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Serious question even though I know if the answer isn't "no one" it just sound stupid or loaded to people from these cultural circles:
Who twists the history in a way to light voting rights for women as some kind of male achievement? Oo
I mean I've heard of individual men being supportive but that word already implies them not being the drivers.
I'm genuinely curious because with no exposure to that framing the post reads like ragebaiting - but it also might be justified rage I just wasn't exposed to so far, if you get my drift.
It's being referred to as a privilege that can be taken away. There has been discussion among the ultra right in the last four years of making the male head of household the only one with voting rights.
This law is being pushed to "protect the integrity of votes" by only letting people vote if their name matches their birth certificate, which would put up a barrier to climb over for married women who have changed their last name and trans people whose names don't match their birth certificate and people who don't have access to or the money to get a copy of their birth certificate.
The Pentagon says Pete Hegseth supports women's right to vote, even though he reposts videos of church leaders saying they should not vote.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/15/politics/pentagon-hegseth-womens-right-to-vote
Oh my fucking god. Like ... I knew that the US politics were derailed/deranged but. Wait, I'm actually surprised that I'm surprised by this. It's ... Consistent.
Thanks for this anyway, today I learned something - although the thing itself is shitty the learning isn't 💜
I'm a divorced cisgender woman who legally changed my name to something that is neither my maiden name nor my married name and got a new birth certificate to back it up. I wonder if I'd get around their stupid rules or if they'd just drag me out back and execute me.
You can actually get a new/updated birth certificate? I thought that was pretty much 'set in stone' with essentially 'what's true at the moment of birth', had no idea that was possible.
I didn't know either! Before I updated it things were a pain in the ass because I was hauling around my birth certificate, marriage certificate, divorce paperwork, and legal name change paperwork, and was constantly having to explain how I got from birth name to current name via marriage but also that I wasn't currently married. It confused everyone when I was like "so here's my legal name change paperwork but the previous name on that doesn't match my birth certificate because it's my married name but I'm not married anymore so here's my married license that shows my maiden name which is what's on the birth certificate and here's my divorce paperwork showing I'm not married anymore". So annoying and I was sick of having to be reminded of my marriage.
Turns out (at least in my state) all it took was sending in a notorized form ($7 at the UPS store), an official copy of my legal name change, and the fee for a new birth certificate (I think like $25). It took about 4 months, but I have a new birth certificate that is identical to my old one in every way, except it has my current legal name on it. Absolutely fills me with joy because now my social security card, passport, drivers license, and birth certificate all match and I'll never have to haul around the rest of that paperwork again. One of my FTM trans coworkers updated his birth certificate and it shows his new name and his gender as male.
You would think "my name changed at marriage, and I legally changed it to a name other than my birth name after that" would be simple enough for people to understand!
Thanks for the info, very interesting.
Depends on your state of fertility. You may be given a red dress and assigned to a new house. Blessed be the fruit.
Thankfully I found a doctor who permanently took care of that problem forever :) I am one of the conservatives' nightmares: a divorced 30-something single cat lady who can't have babies, lives alone, and works a fuck ton of hours to pay all my own bills. I'm also useless as a housewife and I curse a fuckton. Meek tradwife/breeding material I am not.
Men like Trump, who want to get credit for all the things that people supporting him consider good, and deflect blame for all the crappy things he's actually responsible for (or that any respectable leader would take responsibility for because they are the leader, regardless of if they actually were behind it).
Oh shit, did he go as far as to claim he was personally responsible? Wouldn't surprise me.
It would be hilarious if Trump claimed to be personally responsible for women voting rights though. Terrifying but also funny!
The political right in the US is doing that.
Often that's conflated into meaning just men in general tho
It's funny, because what women did in the 1910s to win the vote would almost certainly be described as "terrorism" in the modern moment
Yeah anything that works even a little is terrorism.
For real. Magas transported back to 1910's would be like
Your are against male privilege, you are trying to get new "rights", and you want to change our God given right to treat women how they deserve to be?
Sounds like woke Antifa terrorism to me.
Even funnier, this is the exact thing they would say about ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment today.
No no. You don't understand.
Sufferegates were doing bombings and arsons.
The campaign, led by key WSPU figures such as Emmeline Pankhurst, targeted infrastructure, government, churches and the general public, and saw the use of improvised explosive devices, arson, letter bombs, assassination attempts and other forms of direct action and violence.
This is hyperbole
Sounds like woke Antifa terrorism to me.
If modern leftists had an ounce of the enthusiasm of First Wave Feminists, we'd unironically be talking about them like we talk about Timothy McVeigh or Ted Kaczynski
So some extremists killed some people who were denounced by suffragettes as terrorists.
These extremists didn't get the right to vote and instead gave up their struggle for the war.
Is someone wearing rose colored glasses comparing suffragettes to murderers thus conflating an effective peaceful movement with an ineffective violent one?
No id be saying "all my comrades are way cooler than me. I need to get my shit together; there's a real chance we could win a future where theres still habitable earth."
Instead of "you're all dipshit reactionaries cosplaying 1950s civil rights movements and not trying to actually change anything. Love the vibes though. Wanna get high?"
you’re all dipshit reactionaries cosplaying 1950s civil rights movements and not trying to actually change anything.
Idk who this "you all" is. Pretty wide spectrum of individuals in the movement
Rights are never given, they’re taken, all the way back to the Magna Carta. Rights can also be taken away if people don’t step up and defend them. The universe does not care about us!
Rights are taken by force and then forfeited again by future generations who took no part in the original sacrifice. For example, habeas corpus established in the Magna Carta is less of a guaranteed right in the USA after Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act that legalized indefinite detention of citizens.
Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act
I'm so glad that somebody still remembers that. He also decided that summary executions of US citizens was just fine, demolishing another pillar of due process. "Voting blue" on its own does nothing to safeguard our rights.
Yep! The universe doesn’t guarantee rights after they’re won! It’s not like points on a scoreboard. It’s more like territory on a map. Rights must be continually defended!
We’re watching our rights being systematically removed and or history be erased in real time
The sufragette movement pressured the government (men) to give women the right to vote. In what universe is this not an accurate description of what happened?
Office, I didn't take anything. I simply showed the man my revolver and he helpfully opened his wallet and gave me everything inside
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They convinced the men (who the majority of legislators were) in the same way that the gay community convinced the 'straights' (who the majority of legislators were) re same-sex marriage.
That said, it's very reductionist to consider the 19th amendment as the moment 'all women' joined 'all men' in having the right to vote. Many women were voting before the 19th (women already had full voting rights in 15 states by the time it was ratified), and many men weren't before, and still weren't for long after, the 19th was ratified.
Yes, I agree with all of this. It happened very much like the way the straights were convinced.
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This was done via state campaigns to change state law giving women in targeted state the right to vote. Once enough states had that right/law on the books it made federal constitutional amendment possible, without needing to lobby the federal government to give women the right.
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Shit
AHHHHH! The horror...
Remember that your power was used to get you voting 'rights', not derived from them.
I can't believe this is something that needs to be stated. It does, clearly, but the fact that it needs to be stated boggles the mind.
If you're a man in current year that holds onto the idea that women only have rights because men decided to stop beating/subjugating them — Jesus tap dancing Christ go see a therapist.
Wish more women knew that. Especially those voting for libs and far-right.
Then people fixed that shit*
Ftfy
I thought it said slut. Thanks
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