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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 10 points 21 hours ago

🌈 Yet another problem EVs don't address 🌈

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That actually surprises me. I was to understand that abandoned fishing net was the major issue.

I think the fishing nets were the macroplastics, the big chunks of garbage.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

🚅🚃🚃🚃

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (35 children)

In waters is consistently about a third from tires and a third from synthetic textiles (bcs washing).

Eg

[–] Botunda@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

What the hell is "city dust"?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course the 2% contributor has been addressed, personal care products now aren't allowed to have plastic "abrasives", which is a good change anyway as plastic is useless for improving scrubbing

No other sources have had any work done to mitigate the problem

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, yeah, my toothpaste really doesn't need plastic glitter. Then again, neither does my car's paint, but here we are.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Glitter in paint is usually the mineral Mica.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago

It depends what kind of reflections they go for (in usually polyurethane or acrylic paint?), there is a lot of variety.

Aluminium, bronze, mica, synthetic, glass/ceramic are all used today in various forms and look fairly different.

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[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“City dust” oh yea. The cities that walk everywhere? What’s the dust from?

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I'm just assuming they mean cocaine and not like slowly decaying trash.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd like to see the numbers, but I imagine that the synthetic textiles chunk comes from the sheer volume of fast-fashion and trashion produced every year. I have synthetic shirts that are well over a decade old and still look and function as brand new. My cotton shirts under similar wear get ratty and frayed in that time frame (and require harsh chemicals for stains).

If we stopped over-washing and over production, I wouldn't be surprised if the lifetime ecological footprint of synthetic garments is less than a cotton equivalent.

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i would imagine most comes from shedding of the fabrics in regular use and washing+drying, basically the rate is mostly constant fast fashion or not. I would think the only viable solution would be limiting/stopping or finding alternatives to synthetic fibers. Also perhaps some kind of microplastic filter in washing machine outlets mandated by regulation could be a way to limit the emissions of new microplastics.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So... Cotton/Linen/Wool? The technology is fine, its only downside in most applications is simply cost. Cotton clothes are more comfortable, less stinky, less polluting, and won't fuse with your skin and disfigure you for life if they accidentally catch on fire. On top of not making microplastics soup every wash cycle.

If we cared to actually solve the problem of plastics in fast fashion we could ban them, with some exceptions for sportswear and shoes where synthetics have some actually useful uses. Hell, we could even make it an easy transition by gradually pulling back the allowable synthetic content for x years.

But it would directly kneecap Shein and H&M's business model so we have to weigh all the pros against that.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Cotton/Linen/Wool

There's also Hemp. And Lyocell, which is made from cellulose (Sourced from trees or bamboo).

And yeah nice fully cotton clothes can be pricey. The upside is that they're generally much higher quality and very comfy. Annoyingly it is very common for stuff to be labeled "100% cotton" yet still be cotton/poly mix so always check the fabric breakdown on tags or website fine print.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 day ago

I'm sure would find equivalent non-polluting alternative materials within a couple of years if we banned all plastics ("synthetic textiles").
But only if we actually put the ban in place.
Otherwise the answer is never.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, this is how I understand it too, it's not like half of your shirt ends up in the ocean (and the amount of plastics that ends up in the landfills isn't really included in the microplastics that circle around - that's a problem for the future - so the vomit-inducing fast fashion/consumerism is a bigger problem from every other standpoint).

And yes again on the only viable solution - it's stupid to try to slightly improve something you are gonna be producing more of every year. The "improvements" are just propaganda we are (successfully) fed for decades & it just muddies the discussions whilst keeping the current/same profiteers in power (without even changing the business model).

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Last year I looked for a filter for my washer, and found a lot of inconsistencies and hocus pocus.

This year it’s really hitting me how ratty my cotton t-shirts from pandemic look, especially compared to the rayon blend t-shirts from the same time. If the cotton is heavier and bulkier, doesn’t last as long, needs tons of water…. Is it really better?

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

What is the data source for this chart?

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[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tires are made of rubber, not plastic. U can't fool me, science.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

From the wikipedia page: "Styrene-butadiene or styrene-butadiene rubber (SBR) describe families of synthetic rubbers derived from styrene and butadiene..... About 50% of car tires are made from various types of SBR." Styrene should sound familiar is the base of polystyrene used to make styrofoam

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You had me for a second there

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tyres specifically break down on hard surfaces that typically drain directly to a nearby waterway. Used tyres were/are popular for boat fenders and seawalls and the like. That and literally just dumping them. I’m not surprised.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

City storm drainage is already treated for a population over 100k (in the us). But never for these microplastics. Seems like that would be a good place to start.

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[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I feel like the solution to this starts with t and ends with s.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you. It's time people started taking Trebuchets seriously as a mode of transport.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

It's a one-way ticket because you won't need more.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Trams rights are trains rights.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know what you're thinking but we'd have to create whole different kind of sewer network if you wanted to travel via toilets (a la harold halibut)

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Using Tardises (is that the correct plural) wouldn't just cause a mess in space but also in time.

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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

tssssssss like the sound of a perforated tire

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[–] ALilOff@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

I wonder as well how much comes to play from tires dumped in the ocean like the Osborne reefs as they’re degradation over time.

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