Australia is pretty much run by the coal and mining industries.
It's not an insult, just a fact.
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The mining oligarchs (Rinehart, Palmer and such) bet big on the conservatives winning power and undoing the energy transition Trump-fashion at the last election, and lost spectacularly. The conservatives are out of power, and it appears to be for a long time, so the chickens are coming home to roost. The government is by no means a radical one (regardless of what some of the more unhinged propaganda from the fossil-funded right says), though as the markets themselves are leaning towards renewables on economic grounds alone, they’re trying to balance this transition with keeping the economy stable. Hence officially promoting the transition and funding decarbonisation of energy whilst still approving coal mines.
It's hard for Australia to quit those coal export dollars. We hardly use the stuff ourselves, too expensive to maintain the furnaces compared to solar and wind.
I note that although it was the conservative side that hobbled the mineral resource rent tax, neither side restored that (nor the similar tax on liquid and gas fossil fuels)
We hardly use the stuff ourselves
Uhhh what? Coal is is still like half of all our energy generation.
Coal use != coal mining. Exporting shit to make yourself look cleaner is not how it works. It is exactly as bad.
That was supposed to be in regards to Australia? We don't use coal, but boy do we mine it.
feel free to take it up with the countries buying it, or is it just the west that has to reduce its dependence on coal?
3rd world countries that need cheap energy are to blame instead of one of the richest countries selling stuff because it wants to be richer?
if they need cheap energy renewables are the cheapest, especially with the 3rd worlds links to China, building coal power plants is just ignorance
So they all(!) do not know better and use more expensive stuff why?
Oh they know it, they just don't care, good article:
Producing nickel is causing a staggering amount of climate pollution, and Indonesia knows it.
https://thediplomat.com/2025/09/funding-coal-powered-nickel-in-indonesian-is-a-climate-disaster/
If Australia stops selling coal, it will get more expensive and other countries will have more reasons to use renewables
renewables are already the cheapest form of power, there's no excuse to be building new coal power plants in 2025
Yeah, but the smaller the difference is, the less stupid they have to be to make the wrong decision. The bigger the difference is, the more nincompoops will make the right decision.
as in my other post, they don’t give a shit, they are digging up the majority of their own coal anyway
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Cambodia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Fiji, Finland, Ireland, Jamaica, Kenya, Luxembourg, Marshall Islands, Mexico, Micronesia, Nepal, Netherlands, Panama, Spain, Slovenia, Vanuatu and Tuvalu.
Good start!!
As a Canadian, I'd like to apologies that our cheap imitation of Texas is beholden to its American owners and this precludes our involvement. I'm sick and weary of so much concentrated stupid, and let me add my apology to the list for the embarrassment in our midst.
We're in a terrible spot right now, but we're counting on the local aborigines to pass up so.much.payola and block this new greasy pipeline, and it's 50-50.
fuck, at this point I'm sick and wary of what they might do, not just weary of it
it's 50-50.
Haida Nation is not going to allow tankers on northern BC coast.
https://www.wcel.org/blog/support-oil-tanker-moratorium-act-has-history-its-side
You've listed 24 countries but none of them are the UK which is in the title (as Britain). Something's off or someone else joined.
Gave up on alphabetical order right at the end lol
And of course Sweden isn't on there. Fucking joke of a government we have right now.
Where's Germany? The damn Green party better step up!
Mexico,UK and Australia have extensive fossil fuel resources/production. Though Australia is a global leader in solar policy that has permitted 0 electricity rates for a couple of hours per day. Mexico is extremely vulnerable to US oligarchist pressure, and UK is under direct US rulership. China should be part of the conference because it is the most economically capable of both delivering aid, and alternative energy production.
China burns more coal than anyone else put together.
China manufactures more shit for us to consume than everyone else put together too, I'm pretty sure.
They're not exactly burning a bunch of coal in a vacuum.
There one of the minority of nations that are reducing emissions despite massive energy consumption growth
They're a full eighth of our entire species population and a massive manufacturing hub.
No.
Shit.
bravo! genuinely good politicians detract on these times from a lobbyist summit. i applaud politicians of these states that detract
yesterday is what inspires theory
praxis is all that decides tomorrow
I honestly don't know why this is not more common. If particular countries are way off the mean, median, or mode then they are just acting as spoilers to progress.
Australia, ending fossils? Huh? Aren't they ramping up coal mining?
Negative our coal use is trending downwards:
We are a bit similar to Norway in that domestically we're doing great at pushing forward with renewables but we export most of our crap:
The main sources of domestic energy production from natural sources were:
- Black coal (11,092 PJ of which 89% was exported)
- Natural gas (5,724 PJ of which 78% was exported as LNG)
- Uranium (2,725 PJ of which 99% was exported)
- Crude oil, condensates and other petroleum products (750 PJ of which 79% was exported)
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/industry/energy/energy-account-australia/2023-24
So we export fossil fuels but at home we're number one in the world:
Australia has the highest per capita solar capacity, now over 1.4kW.
We also I'm pretty certain (thanks to the Labor governments home battery subsidises) number one in the world with home battery installs:
“Based on the success of the program to date, we anticipate around 175,000 valid batteries to be installed by the end of 2025, representing around 3.9 GWh of useable capacity.
When you can get a 40kwh home battery for 7000 AUD (~4500 USD) to hook up to your solar panels (which are getting bugger all for sending solar to the grid because we now have too much solar being generated now) and just about go off grid, why wouldn't you?
Sorry for long reply :X
Aside from all else, if you have enough solar to consider never using the grid, you'll want the grid to soak up your excess. My planned solar would be producing excess most winter days (in order to create enough power to charge the car any time of year)
Where can you get 40kWh for 7k? Thats off by a factor of about 4 in my experience. Parents just spent ~$1k/kWh for their battery earlier this year.
few on ozbargain:
[NSW] 50kWh VoltX Solar Battery & 10kW Inverter $6,999 Installed (NSW Metro Only) @ VoltX Energy
[NSW, SA, QLD] NEW Customers Only: 41.93 Kwh Fox ESS Eq4800 Solar Battery from $5,199 @ Aussie Solar Batteries
Those prices just seem too good to be true, but if real, thats incredible.
Quick search of voltx, and their site is offering 30kWh for $7k, so thats already a downgrade, but that could be just out of date info.
it's crazy, even 30kw for 7k, i paid $16k for 10kw in jan 2023
finally!
You don't need a commitee to permanently end fossil fuels. We're in the early phase of hitting extraction limits already. You can't get blood from a stone.
We've thought that many times. But any time we reach the perceived limits, riskier or harder to get to sources just become economically viable to exploit.
meh. could have said the same thing before fracking.
We're going to make our own climate conference with blackjack and bookers.