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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

IDF rules:

OK things to do:

  • Kill children,
  • Rape women,
  • Kill prisoners,
  • Destroy peoples property,
  • Use iPhone.

Not OK things to do:

  • Use Android OS
[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

The reason for this is because Pegasus is better used on iPhones than Androids and you can flash GrapheneOS on them while iPhones are locked down.

[–] 5paceThunder@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Guess Blackberry security was right all along

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Androids are obviously Hamas

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] anzo@programming.dev 8 points 9 hours ago

This can mean anything, it's possible they wanted just 1 platform so that their expertise is focused. And android being a little more open may have been seen (biased) as a disadvantage (i.e. enemies are more prone to find a vulnerability). We can argue with it. It's like the counterpart of people thinking that open source is per default more safe because of being open source... It's a correlation that can't prove anything..

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I thought Apple doesn’t let the bad guys … oh wait, that’s just in Movies and TV shows.

[–] CatAssTrophy@safest.space 14 points 12 hours ago

It's also just not true, the villain/killer/etc has iPhones in many shows and movies already, including multiple AppleTV shows.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 22 points 16 hours ago

Guess we now know what the "i" stands for.

[–] ILiveByTheRiver@lemmings.world 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I was already thinking of getting a Linux phone next, this is helping to seal the deal. Fuck Apple the genocide enablers.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

please do explain how Apple is doing anything here. If Israel wants to provide their military with iPhones they're going to no matter what Apple does.

[–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

They don't have to do business with/in Israel.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

That still will not stop a nation state (especially Israel) from getting their hands on Apple devices.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

This is an American company. They will do what their leaders from Israel want because no company seems to have the stones to tell them to pound sand.

[–] NamedUser@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Mind sharing any linux phones candidates you are considering?

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Android is technically based on Linux so maybe go with a custom ROM like Grapheme? I've found the experience on it to be enjoyable personally and feel a lot better about my security even if I don't lock it down as hard as some people.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Having to rely on webapps is a pain but Steve Jobs was right after all.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 62 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I said it before and I’ll say it again, among all tech companies, Apple is the closest to the nazi mindset.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 47 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (27 children)

Google has decided you cannot turn off Gemini in their newer versions of Android. You cannot install other roms that do either, Google is killing those too. But yea, Apple is the bad guy. Ignore the Google rug pull.

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Wasn't it also just reported a few weeks ago that Samsung installs Israeli spyware on android devices sold in MENA?

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-appcloud-spyware-controversy-3616325/

[–] biggeoff@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago

Both are the bad guys, not either.

[–] UnspecificGravity@infosec.pub 20 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

What roms does Apple let you install on iPhones?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Apple never opened that door. Google did, but they never intended to keep it open. it was there to catch up with apple. they never intended to do any good here. it was there to speed up development and win people over, then after they are already there, google can close the door and screw them all. That's what's happening now. It was a bait and switch.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Yep. The attract phase is completed for Android, now on to the extract phase.

[–] ILiveByTheRiver@lemmings.world 5 points 12 hours ago

LINUX PHONE

[–] Tja@programming.dev 15 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Apple never even tried to allow it, so yeah, Apple IS the bad guy. Google is becomeing it, Apple is the mayor of bad guy town.

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[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 26 points 19 hours ago

As much as I don't disagree, I think the "Apple is closest to Nazism" comment touches on something different. Other massive American companies have awful practices but they don't care particularly how their way of making money looks. Apple wields a specific aesthetic power that generally dictates a hegemonic uniformity, that strays the line of being to their detriment at times. I don't think any other big tech company would care in the same way if not for their desire to copy Apple.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I mean it's not just that. Probably not even mostly that. Security is really not great on Android far beyond the AI. I've been running Android for years and probably won't change until Linux with LUKS is a reasonable alternative, But from a hardware level on through to the software, there are so many holes in the OS and ways to access privileged information. Even the top end of the Samsung line is largely rootable at this point, not without concessions, mind you, but as far as an enemy getting a phone and gaining access, or the company itself getting your data even without AI, I'd probably be concerned enough for ANY military org not to allow them to be used.

Apple has a hell of a lot of issues, might even be overly friendly with Israel, but from a security standpoint, it's probably safer for secrets than android at the moment.

I really just want an encrypted portable linux device with a cellular modem. I don't even care if it can SMS or VOLTE, I just need it to run a secure chat client, support Bluetooth headphones and last all day on a charge.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

You aren't going to get such a device enabled on the american cellular networks. The duoploy wont allow it. You would have a better chance creating a new network that doesnt need cellular technology. something that behaves more like a cordless phone that uses whatever wifi, packet radio, reticulum node, etc as the base. You wouldn't be able to get a straight phone number without a VoIP subscription but thats also not a terribly big problem as phone numbers are a terrible idea in 2025 anyway. We should have revocable keys exchanged at will that are unique to each contact. Either side can block communications effectively that way at any time and you couldnt just call them from a different number or sell the key to a different scammer or something.

Really, a 5G capable phone running linux isnt a big enough goal. Mobile communications needs a profound shift away from the legacy model.

[–] tym@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

and meanwhile, the american supreme court is ruling on terminating online access due to piracy today. I wonder what they'll rule....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/12/01/daily-briefing-music-piracy-supreme-court-stockton-shooting-world-aids-day/87505607007/

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I can get a data sim card and put it in a laptop right now. It's just an inconvenient form factor.

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

What exactly is insecure about running GrapheneOS?

Or even stock OS on a Pixel? Has any of the conspiracies about Google Play Services ever been proven?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

You mean besides the fact that the IDF has been selling ICE software specifically to compromise android phone and now they're forbidding their own forces from using Android...

That's not much of a stretch IMO, but you do you.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, Google came out and said what they are going to do. its hardly a conspiracy theory.

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

What part? The fact that they no longer will be providing Pixel-specific source code?

Who else has been providing the literal OS source code for their devices?

I'm talking about the conspiracy where Google is monitoring your every move, reading all your encrypted messages, and providing backdoors to government entities.

[–] skaffi@infosec.pub 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I really just want an encrypted portable linux device with a cellular modem. I don’t even care if it can SMS or VOLTE, I just need it to run a secure chat client, support Bluetooth headphones and last all day on a charge.

Then you're in luck, because that's something you can already have by now! Just get yourself one of the more recent-ish phones that are well supported by PostmarketOS. The things Linux phones struggle the most with these days, are the more traditional phone-things, such as text messages or calling, which may not be ready for production, as they say (although, both texts and calls have actually worked well for me as of late). But if all you want is a pocket Linux computer/PDA, and intend to carry another phone for calls and texting, that's something you can have, for the grand price of an old, second-hand phone. I've been loving my (LUKS-encrypted) OnePlus 6T, and I do actually use it for calls and texts as well!

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