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[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Bullshit. I have it turned off on my pixel 9pro and Samsung s24 plus 

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You actually turned off geminis ability to serve YOU. You never turned off Gemini itself. Google won’t allow that. It’s still running in the background send your data to Google and its advertising partners. Google has publicly stated this is the intended design and they will not allow turning that off.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have to show you. Google, the people who made the fucking OS, told you that's how this works!

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

No. They provided me a nice little button that allows me to disable Gemini, and they have allowed me to opt out of any usage. So again. Show me that it is still active after I have disabled it.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

I was curious so I searched. This is the best info I could find. 

https://proton.me/blog/turn-off-gemini-on-android

Proton claims that even if you turn everything off, it will still watch in the background because Google is replacing assistant with Gemini. That still hasn't happened on my phone. I can still use the regular Google assistant, but I feel like I'm not smart enough to evaluate the claims to know whether it is really running on my phone or not.

Proton also has a profit motive in making people upset with Google, so I don't know.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Typical redditor response, you're in the wrong community friend. Using deflection instead of constructive discussion. Your kind are no better than MAGA people.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I've lost features that used to work without Gemini, but I believe it is disabled on both my Pixel 7 Pro and the Pixel 8 I have access to.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, it’s still running in the background. You just turned off its ability to interact with you but can and does still interact with others.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Do you have some sort of evidence for this claim?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android/53771/ and https://proton.me/blog/turn-off-gemini-on-android were easy enough to find. If I remember correctly the grapheneOS guys spoke on this too.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bss03@infosec.pub 3 points 12 hours ago

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me either way. There IS a lot of telemetry and other BS that is definitely still on my phone, included in OS updates, and not uninstallable (I can "uninstall updates", but that would also give me back any security issues). But, I don't think that it is Gemini, or at least predates that naming convention.

To get free of Google telemetry, I'd have to install a non-Google ROM, and I haven't ever tried that.

Telemetry certainly can be abused, and Google should be legally (by regulation) required to provide a simple opt-out. BUT, telemetry really is a fairly normal thing to include in "web-scale" deployments and is primarily used to discover issues that have escaped into production without affecting a testing environment--or, at least, that what the telemetry systems I've interacted with as an software developer were for. So, I'm not too worried about non-personalized data collection.