Lions have sharp teeth because theyre used to kill other animals.
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When people say "Eh, it's a living" are they referring to simply being alive? I think people sometimes look too much into some idioms.
In the natural world, you don't actually deserve to be alive and need to compete for it. In societies I would argue it's what the society can put up with. You don't deserve to be alive, you simply are or are not ... or the many thousands of states in between. By default, you are going to need to adapt regardless to keep alive. I can see "living" referring to that adaptation, but then again, I can understand polysemy.
i fucking volunteer to labor for humanity. Fucking pick me when we get the socialism please.
“We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in 10,000 of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.” — Buckminster Fuller
Man, those pro life people will be so mad when they find out
I remember as a kid being told god hates us and we have to spend our lives earning his love. Like wtf? Im automatically hated by being born? This is the same energy as the posts if not the source of the belief.
Was it the cosmic being, or some aliens pretending (or being mistranslated) to be god?
Still... either way, it's still wrong.
There are a great many things I would like to do, but don't do, simply because it is not economical. Even when I find employment doing something I enjoy, I am forced to do it at an increasingly fast pace, and I know that what I'm making is low quality garbage that will be discarded quickly. How can one be expected to take pride in their work under those circumstances?
Capitalism murders your soul, and blames you for being soulless.
And most of the work that actually contributes something to society has shit wages, while the jobs that don't contribute anything or are detrimental to society have insanely high wages.
People are generally good and will even freely donate their time for things that contribute to society. That creates an excess of labor available for those jobs.
I'm secretly hoping that AI takes out banking jobs and VC first, just so that that the moneylickers have to confront their new reality of who they are without it
(Jokingly) Hey! Get (that meme template) out yo gotdamn mouth!
Lol same
I mean ... in a way? When one looks at it from nature's point of view, no organism has some "given right to live", all organisms try to survive. But do we, as a society, really want to live like animals, each for themself, without empathy, without solidarity?
So nearly got an upvote from me, but then you had to ruin it with a false dichotomy. Better ways
Oh, and also, I just caught before clicking reply, "given the right to live" is a moved goal post.
You sound fun. Can I have an upvote?
I'd argue that our social capabilities are our nature, rather than an exception to nature.
Massive disagree, we exist within nature not separate from it.
Human sociality doesn't supersede nature because it's an embedded system within nature.
I think... That's what I said?
Yeah I definitely responded to the wrong person, my bad
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Similar to "make money", it's an insidious Orwellian mislead.
"Make money" =~= "profit" =~= "wealth extraction".
I've always believed that everyone should be able to have, for free, a permanent private living space of at least 80sqft, a reasonably comfortable bed, access to a toilet and shower and associated toiletries, clothing suitable for the weather, water and food (even if only some flavorless nutritional paste), and access to medical care both as-needed and on a regular basis. if you have no ambition in life beyond sitting in that little room staring at the wall and eating soylent, then so be it, for a society to provide any less is immoral
I’ve always believed that everyone should be able to have, for free, a permanent private living space of at least 80sqft, a reasonably comfortable bed, access to a toilet and shower and associated toiletries, clothing suitable for the weather, water and food (even if only some flavorless nutritional paste), and access to medical care both as-needed and on a regular basis. if you have no ambition in life beyond sitting in that little room staring at the wall and eating soylent, then so be it, for a society to provide any less is immoral
Since around 2004, getting really deep in some leisurely research rabbit holes, I've maintained the assertion that everybody should be able to have, for free, spaceships of their own, that are clean ZPE powered, can do zero-inertia propulsion (~ that's all the instant acceleration, instant stopping, high speed sharp angle turns, stuff ~), can sustain human life indefinitely, can print another of itself instantly, and safe enough for a 2 year old to fly home.
... And that we could have had spaceships for everybody since the 1930s, and it's not so wild if one simply follows the tech arc from Michael Faraday through to Nikola Tesla's time (stopping by things like the Sonora Aero Club from 1850 along the way), and you can see the early working prototypes of the technology before the wright brothers' first flight.
That, and, the abundant space on earth.
... Y'know we could increase the carrying capacity of earth to over 300 trillion, still with abundant spacious nature, with vast forest arcologyscapes. Much of the same tech that avails all space, helps us accomplish such constructive feats of better resource management on earth.
No cull necessary.
We have so much headroom, with proper resource management.
We have so much headroom, without the parasitic crooks keeping us down, just so they have "more". Blithering idiots in the psychopathic circlejerk, yet to evolve to realise they'd have even more yet, in availing abundance and emancipation. They'd not be living the stressful fear laden life, striving to keep us down, and keep us from turning on them for keeping us down. Do they have spaceships yet? And the reassurance no one is trying to take theirs because everybody has their own too?
Spaceships for everybody.
(I say that a lot. I mean it like it encapsulates everything you proposed we each should have, and more, to the very best of human innovation.)
Imagine my shock when I checked how much 80 square feet are.
honestly seems wild to me that people are pushing back so hard on the idea of having at minimum a small bedroom, as opposed to a cot in a crowded bunk room, or one of those Japanese pod hotels. y'all never seen a college dorm room?
Don't get me wrong, I like the ideas you're proposing. The 80 square feet is just a little behind the rest in my opinion. And the flavorless paste, but others mentioned it already. It's not necessarily bad to have these as guaranteed minimum, but at the same time we can easily set the bar higher.
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I remember talking with a fellow Hungarian who happened to be a "moderate" conservative, and he told me there's nothing wrong with Fidesz making our country for cheap labor, because some of those cheap laborers can be promoted to be middle managers in the factories.
A reminder to people that there is no such thing as a lazy person. Only a person who's work is not valued
Edit: erased "under capitalism" at the end. The problem of certain work or skills not being valued is not limited to just capitalism
Does make the best of UBI advocacy pretty tight.
My therapist tells me everyone is doing their best, even the housemate that leaves dirty dishes all over the house and never flushes the toilet. I grapple with this on the regular.
This is exactly it. We never know what each other is struggling with that limits their capacity to do things, we don't know what supports they need to succeed.
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In the USSR work is a duty and a matter of honor for every able-bodied citizen, in accordance with the principle: "He who does not work, neither shall he eat".
Article twelve of the 1936 Constitution of the Soviet Union
Do you think this is a gotcha or something? I'm an anarchist, not a marxist.
No? Just saying it's not exclusive to capitalism
Thats fair. I guess its more so just hierarchy in general. When people are in power they get to decide what is an isnt valued.
I went and fixed my original comment
Also I apologize for immediately assuming that you were trying to be rude
Wow... That sounds... fun...
It also sounds like what you'd expect an oligarch-run slave farm to sound like.
I'm shocked people turned against this. Shocked, I tell you.
My roommate hard at work drinking energy drinks and playing HoI4
There is another similar quote that I think fits your roommates situation.
"Somebody has said that dust is matter in the wrong place. The same definition applies to nine-tenths of those called lazy. They are people gone astray in a direction that does not answer to their temperament nor to their capacities. In reading the biography of great men, we are struck with the number of "idlers" among them. They were lazy so long as they had not found the right path; afterwards they became laborious to excess. Darwin, Stephenson, and many others belonged to this category of idlers." - Peter Kropotkin
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Life isn't exactly easy for most of nature. Animals starve and are killed continuously. It has been the same for most of human history. We may have overcome challenges regarding having sufficient resources, but we haven't overcome all of the obstacles that our selfish animal nature continues to produce in society.
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