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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Technical debt be like this, except you're always the next person.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 6 points 18 hours ago

Keep doubling it until we get all 8 billion people there.

[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

the solution, as always, is multitrack drifting. according to some perverted mathematics, 1+2+4+8+16+... actually just equals -1, so you end up reviving one person

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

you always gotta pay it forward

[–] WillStealYourUsername@piefed.blahaj.zone 95 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If we all keep doubling then no one dies! let's not think too hard on the logistics after a few doublings

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not long before the global population is tied to the track and there's no one left to pull the switch. The trolley problem has suddenly become an inescapable extinction event.

[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are we still talking about the trolley problem ?

[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

Aren't we always?

Depends which direction the default is. Was it kill everyone or pass?

[–] Kwdg@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's look at it this way. Only 34 people have to make this decision at maximum. After that everyone is laying on the track

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But nobody's there to pull the switch to run everyone over, so the train barrels on into mathematical impossibility. Does the scenario create people ex nihilo to continue on? Does the simulation crash? We won't know until we find out.

[–] cnlwhs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It causes segfault and dumps core which then becomes the second Earth.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This includes OP (original puller).

This also seems like a lesson in procrastination.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So you're saying the prime nonmover exists both at the beginning and the end?
Takes puff and squits eyes.
That's deep bro.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you just invented capitalism.

[–] cnlwhs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In capitalism we keep doubling them and people still die

[–] solomonschuler@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Well that's the thing about infinity, as n--> inf it is all more likely for someone to pull the lever than not contrary of the morality of the individual. Which concerns the dillema, do you pull the lever killing one person and ending the experiment, or do you double it, and give someone the opportunity to pull the lever and kill 2^n people. In the end it will happen assuming there is an infinite number of people having the same choice as you do.

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

And risk someone deciding they want to kill 8 billion people?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 12 points 1 day ago

if they are removed from the tracks, double it and pass it on.

if they are moved to the next section, choo choo motherfucker it was going to happen eventually.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

You should stop being a nob, put the trolley back in the trolley park and retrieve your coin.

Going purely by the illustration, pass it to the next person because they have a track with no-one on it

[–] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Hm, just one quick thought: Wouldn't it be better to look out which track doesn't have people lying there? However, far sight only goes that far, I guess

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can choose the person, but then you become one of the people on the track in a later trolley problem.

[–] nawa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

No, but if you double it for the next person you increase the chances that they will be killed.

Asking the real questions there.

[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there a way to kill everybody?

Just keep it going until we kill none of the billionaires and literally all life on earth ends, yes.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Id shum over everyone

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your inaction is what kills more, statistically. Someone will eventually pull the lever to stop the trolley, but by not doing anything, you doomed more people. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. A trolley problem isn't reality though. You won't find such absolutism and certainty in the outcome.

An alternate solution is to jump on the trolley and kill each lever puller before you get to them, forever protecting the growing masses. I'm not sure what that symbolizes. Some sort of constant cost paid to protect the rest of humanity.

And what lies past the track that kills that one or few people? Maybe something worse that this decision, so killing one seemed the most logical, but actually was far worse than postponing the decision and shrugging the responsibility (which is what this is about really).

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Someone will eventually pull the lever to stop the trolley

Why

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 points 15 hours ago

I can think of lots of reasons early on, but if it goes on forever why would you think it wouldn't ever happen?

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which is the default track? Cause that will change my answer

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That does change the answer a lot. As drawn if no one ever does anything, everyone is always safe (tied on a track, but alive). Can anyone at the level count on the next people down the line to not pull? Or it is "not my problem", basically?

I still say what I said in my other reply, we can only see what's given to us and assumed is the only problem, but what if there's worse things down the track that seems the best answer right now? I guess in reality we can only work with what we know, so we have to make some decisions that have blind spots too.

[–] Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is there any way I can get rid of all 4 of them?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can I take everyone with me?

I like your can do attitude and outside the box thinking!

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

I've always liked this one because before long it escalates into a social contract