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It's absolutely better to get chicken pox than shingles, but if you get the vaccine, you get neither. But hey, I get it, big pharma is a monster, but many that rally against vaccines also use Ozempic, and plastic surgery etc. Is RFK really onto a thing with vaccines when he's taking steroids?
It's absolutely better to get chicken pox than shingles
It's not one or the other though. If you don't get chicken pox you can't get shingles
It's also an anti-vaxx lie that vaccines somehow abuse the immune system in any way. The immune system is immensely complex to understand, let alone control. The most effective way for vaccines to work is to allow the immune system to do its thing. The immune system works to its full effect with vaccines, you simply do not get advanced symptoms or complications with vaccines compared to the real disease.
Yeah, I don't wanna hear shit about chickenpox being good for a child. I was too young to be able to get the vaccine and because of that, there's a chance I get the complications of getting pox that you get later in life. It wasn't even my own parents fault, since I caught it in daycare.
Also, if I remember correctly, Japan rolled out the first chickenpox vaccines to prevent it from becoming a mass epidemic on their island nation.
Edit:
It's shingles. That's the complication that can happen later in life after having pox.
Yes, the author is stupid to be advocating for chicken pox.
Even setting aside the discomfort of chicken pox, catching chicken pox (particularly as a young child) increases the risk of shingles. Nobody in their right mind wants shingles.
Not just discomfort, it can, in some cases, leave you with permanent injury.
If it attacks the optic nerve (which it can do) there is a very high chance of been blinded.
Now do AIDS.
AIDS denialism is very much a thing.
Here’s my copy of Tom Bethell’s The Politically Incorrect Guide to Science.
I had chicken pox when I was three and it's one of my few memories from that time in my life.
Fuuuuuck these people abusing their children.
Chicken pox was. Miserable, and I'm didn't have it that bad.
Give the kids the vaccine
In Denmark we don't vaccinate for chicken pox for exactly the reasons given in the post.
I hope you vaccinate for shingles then, because it can be very painful and debilitating
AFAIK it's not covered either, but you can of course do it at your own expense.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10075481
Universal varicella vaccination (UVV) is not currently part of the Danish National Immunization Program [4]. In the absence of a UVV program, the estimated varicella disease burden in Denmark is considerable, with 63,500 cases annually, mainly among those under the age of 5 years [5]
Oh wow.
And afaik, you guys have a decent healthcare system, so the state is paying for the consultations and treatments of the complications. The vaccine is 40€, I hope nobody goes to the generalist about it twice.
And I just found out it's not mandatory in France either. I was convinced it was mandatory everywhere.
It may also be due to concerns with uptake. Outcomes can be worse at middling vaccination rates with varicella.
I'm also European and getting confused here, my kid got all the vaccinations offered to us but also recently caught varicelle (which is chicken pox by my understanding) at daycare. It was super mild but now I'm getting kinda worried about the whole shingles thing? I also had it as a kid and gave it to my older brother who had it pretty bad, but I guess that was before vaccines for it existed. Gonna look into this...