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    tech savvy ppl and non-techy ppl both dont like Edge, Bing and copilot

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    [–] Object@sh.itjust.works 74 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Something about Microsoft UI just feels so off for some reason. Material UI, Apple stuff all feels good to use but clicking on a button in Microsoft UI is just... bad.

    [–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Windows-only users would never know, but people who've either used a modern mac or linux computer will understand.

    [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 2 months ago

    Or windows users that have been around 20 plus years....

    Really it is sad just how bad its all gone.

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    [–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It makes me think of Fisher Price toys.

    [–] DeltaWingDragon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Fisher-Price actually has solidity to it. I'd take that over these pseudomagical plastic sticky notes.

    People called Windows XP "Fisher-Price"!

    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    yeah it does really feel plasticky in the worst way

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    [–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    In my experience non-techy people just don't know what Edge and Bing are.

    [–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Which "non-techy people" are we talking about here?

    Nowadays some people only use smartphones or maybe tablets, and they might not know that. But most non-techy desktop users still use Windows and they certainly ought to know the default browser (and its search engine) on their OS, I would think.

    [–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I'm talking about people on Windows desktops. They don't know what Windows is, they confuse Office with Windows all the time, they go online through the "internet symbol" which is their default browser that they don't know the name of. Google is their default search engine and they've never seen any other search engine.

    [–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If Google is their default search engine, they must at least be tech-savvy enough to have changed the search engine in Edge, or installed another browser (probably Chrome).

    [–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    No they complained to enough people around them that "the internet doesn't work" until someone did it for them

    [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

    Is the 1# bing search still "google"?

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    [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    They might know the icon; they probably don't know its name tho.

    And in my experience, non-tech people use the default browser and its default search engine. If they hate it, they certainly don't show it.

    [–] manucode@infosec.pub 5 points 2 months ago

    For many non-techy people it's probably simply the internet button.

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    [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 months ago

    You forgot the panel where the tech savvy people wash their hands afterwards

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 months ago

    What I find interesting is when typically non tech savvy people start using things like Brave.

    Goes to show how shit the tech industry is

    [–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Edge is just Chromium now (so worth hating still, but for different reason), and Bing has its uses. Hell, isn’t DuckDuckGo basically Bing?

    [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)
    [–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 16 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Like I said, it’s one of the engines that drive DuckDuckGo. These days I only turn to Google on the rare occasion that DuckDuckGo fails me, so Bing gets some appreciation from me there.

    [–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

    Google isn't as good as it was and bing isn't as bad as it once was

    [–] dan@upvote.au 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Not just DuckDuckGo - the majority of search engines and voice assistants that aren't Google use data from Bing. It's the largest search engine that has a public API. Even search engines that have their own index usually use Bing to supplement their results.

    [–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Id feel better about DuckDuckGo if it wasnt shoehorning ai

    [–] OpenStars@discuss.online 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    DDG seems fairly gentle about pushing it though.

    [–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
    [–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

    There is noai.duckduckgo.com at least? Yeah, meh. Still American.

    Qwant/Ecosia team up for new European search engine development waiting room.

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    [–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

    Yup. Never understood the Bing hate, they got better years ago. DDG is a source in my SearXNG instance, does fine.

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    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

    i like edging

    [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Tech savvy people like Duckduckgo, Duckduckgo uses Bing under the hood

    [–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I host my own search engine lol.

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    [–] tomiant@piefed.social 17 points 2 months ago

    Did I tell anyone about that time that I use arch?

    [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah, this is "tech" "savvy" people, not actual people who understand tech.

    The current version of Edge is literally just Chrome with extra bells and whistles.

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yup. This is the meme of a kind of person who is β€œtech savvy” as an affectation they use to adorn their personality. It’s nothing more, with no deeper thought involved.

    [–] YgestWefsid@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago

    I just call myself a "guy on linux with a firefox fork" and nothing more to be honest.

    [–] burgermeister@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] dan@upvote.au 11 points 2 months ago

    Non tech savvy people don't care which browser they're using. A lot of them do actually use Edge, since it comes with Windows.

    [–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

    Bing used to be better than Google for a time but it has gotten worse too to the point where I use Google again. Edge is, IMO, unfairly maligned. It's a perfectly good browser, although Microsoft begging me to use it is quite annoying.

    [–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly, the preinstalled spyware aside, Edge is a pretty good browser. It's, like, Chrome but better

    [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Edge is a pretty good browser.

    Setting aside my requirements to minimize spying and avoiding big tech. I agree.

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    [–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    if im using chromium, it's gonna be vivaldi

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    [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Edge is actually pretty great. Bing…well, the image search is okay.

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    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

    Bing is a better search engine than Google, but both are pale imitations of their former selves. It's amazing how bad search has gotten in the last ~5 years

    [–] julien@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

    Where is Vivaldi?

    [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

    Im dumb, whats the w logo?

    [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

    I love edge...

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    [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I'm tech savvy, and I dislike Firefox.

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