The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
I never thought I'd see this happen in the U.S. in my lifetime. It's a matter of time before people start shooting these assholes.
Several states, including Texas, have upheld the citizen's right to self defense against cops who are in the wrong.
Since they always go in with guns drawn, proportionality means deadly force is fair game against a deadly threat. People have been acquitted for killing cops who busted into the wrong house.
Dangerous game to play, but I'd imagine that you're right, and that we'll start seeing some out of control cops get put in the ground before this madness ends.
Ends? This is just the beginning of fascism. Buckle up, it's gonna be a hell of a ride!
People have been acquitted for killing cops who busted into the wrong house.
Sure, but I'd like to see some statistics. Percentage where the cops won such cases, and where the home owner won. And how all that compares to the opposite case: cops accidentally killing home owners.
I think the more important statistic is not the ration of won/lost court cases but alive/dead homeowner after a gunshot. Being right is nice but being alive is kinda important.
It's why I say it's a dangerous game to play. I think we all have some notion of the odds.
And when it does start happening they declare martial law.
Is there a functional difference between what's happening and martial law?
Yeah, martial law applies to white people as well.
Exactly. They are chomping at the bit for a reason to do that, and actively trolling us into it. Not to invoke Godwin's Law, but there is precedent here.
There is no way this is actually legal. I know the law doesn’t apparently matter anymore but I would be really surprised if ICE can just bust down a door without a search or arrest warrant for a crime.
There is no way this is actually legal.
Even before Trump, a lot of what "normal police" did could be characterized in this way - this is "just" the next step.
But yeah, no, it's not legal even in the US. Until it turns into a full autocracy and the leaders have unmitigated power to define what is.
Yet they're still doing it on a daily basis (kudos to @CubitOom for sharing all those videos) with the DHS' support.
Texas pigs bleed like any others
Quick fun idea for the whole family.
Get armed and get trained.
Time is running out